InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight
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asychis@...
Seems that these cars are about two oz. shy of the NMRA recommended weight
(and it shows on our layout). I have 12 of these that came RTR. What would
be the best way too add weight? It doesn't seem obvious if the top, bottom
or doors come off easily. Thanks.
Jerry Michels |
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Jerry,
Add cattle! (and that was only partly tongue in cheek, as cast metal cattle would add weight)
Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:12 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight Seems that these cars are about two oz. shy of the NMRA recommended weight (and it shows on our layout). I have 12 of these that came RTR. What would be the best way too add weight? It doesn't seem obvious if the top, bottom or doors come off easily.
Thanks.
Jerry Michels
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Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
Hello Group, I am presently working on a system to mass produce -- read I need 10 to 12 examples -- models of the MKT 47001-series of stock cars. My plan is to bury the needed weight in the sand and hay bedding. Lead livestock is another good solution but I do not know of any being available. Cheers, Bill Keene On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:47 PM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Tom Birkett <tnbirke@...>
Bill
Cast your own herd! Tom Birkett -Bartlesville From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:48 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight Hello Group, I am presently working on a system to mass produce -- read I need 10 to 12 examples -- models of the MKT 47001-series of stock cars. My plan is to bury the needed weight in the sand and hay bedding. Lead livestock is another good solution but I do not know of any being available. Cheers, Bill Keene On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:47 PM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... <mailto:smithbf@...> [STMFC] <STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> > wrote: Jerry, Add cattle! <G> (and that was only partly tongue in cheek, as cast metal cattle would add weight) Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL _____ From: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> [STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> ] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:12 PM To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> Subject: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight Seems that these cars are about two oz. shy of the NMRA recommended weight (and it shows on our layout). I have 12 of these that came RTR. What would be the best way too add weight? It doesn't seem obvious if the top, bottom or doors come off easily. Thanks. Jerry Michels [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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At one time Dyna Models of Maine offered cast metal livestock, cows, horses, mules, sheep, chickens, etc. The company is gone, but occasionally you can find their animals at swap meets or on eBay.
Musket Miniatures of Colorado http://www.musketminiatures.com/ offers cast metal cattle, horses, mules, pigs, chickens, etc.
But filling a car with metal critters could get expensive and probably cause the car to be overweight. At 22 cows per car at $1+ each http://www.musketminiatures.com/cgi-bin/details.cgi?part_number=HOC3115 cattle costs will add up quickly.
Doug Harding
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Charles Hladik
But Doug how do you figure 22 critters? If the car
happens to be a 40 footer, you can only put 10 in or you will have more than 40
feet. Don't know what to tell you about a 50 foot car.
Chuck Hladik
Modeling the Rutland, milk not cows
In a message dated 4/15/2015 10:38:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Steve SANDIFER
You don't have to have distingquishable animals. Take 2 ox of roofing lead and bend it in up and down fashions to form "hills" of lead to put in the car. The doors pop off pretty easily to allow you to do this. If building the car from a kit, you can put flat lead on the floor and consider the car to be empty.
__________________________________________________ J. Stephen Sandifer Minister Emeritus, Southwest Central Church of Christ Webmaster, Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:48 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight
Hello Group,
I am presently working on a system to mass produce -- read I need 10 to 12 examples -- models of the MKT 47001-series of stock cars. My plan is to bury the needed weight in the sand and hay bedding.
Lead livestock is another good solution but I do not know of any being available.
Cheers, Bill Keene
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asychis@...
Jerry,
Add cattle! (and that was only partly tongue in cheek, as cast metal cattle would add weight) Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL Interesting Bruce, but still need to know how to get them into a RTR
car. Jerry Michles |
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destorzek@...
---In STMFC@..., <steve.sandifer@...> wrote : You don't have to have distinguishable animals. =============== A friend of mine who models in "blacksmith" (O) scale had the opposite problem... he needed to load a brass stockcar, but the car was already almost too heavy. It's amazing how much Styrofoam packing peanuts look like sheep when viewed through the slats. Dennis Storzek |
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Bill Adam
I just picked up a couple Dyna-Models stockyard kits at a train show in New Braunfels, and they came with painted cast metal steers and hogs.
Bill Adam Pearland, Texas |
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Bill Vaughn
Just check one of my kits. The ends and roofs are one piece and the floors and side separate. Hope this helps. Bill Vaughn On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:31 PM, "billnlargo@... [STMFC]" I just picked up a couple Dyna-Models stockyard kits at a train show in New Braunfels, and they came with painted cast metal steers and hogs. Bill Adam Pearland, Texas
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:31 PM, "billnlargo@... [STMFC]" wrote: I just picked up a couple Dyna-Models stockyard kits at a train show in New Braunfels, and they came with painted cast metal steers and hogs. Bill Adam Pearland, Texas
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Bill,
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Bowser sells the Selly line, and they do have pewter cattle: http://www.bowser-trains.com/docs/HO%20Selley/Selley%20Drawings%20Page%203.jpg That still doesn't explain how to get them into your cars. Yours Aye, Garth Groff On 4/15/15 9:47 PM, Bill Keene
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Bill Welch
Guys:
Did not Jerry say that the models were prebuilt, i.e. all closed up? Closed up with glue that is. Bill Welch |
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spoilsport! :-)
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Benjamin Hom
Bill Welch wrote:
"Did not Jerry say that the models were prebuilt, i.e. all closed up? Closed up with glue that is." Sure did. Always surprising how many people don't understand the principles of RTFQ and ATFQ. Ben Hom |
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asychis@...
Just check one of my kits. The ends and roofs are one piece and the
floors and side separate. Hope this helps.
Bill Vaughn Thanks Bill, that was the answer I was looking for. Are the doors
separate or cast on?
Jerry Michels |
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Bill,
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I was well aware of that in making my comments. However, just because a car is RTR and glued does not mean that you cannot gain access. This car in particular has a separate floor and it might be possible to remove that floor to add internal
weight. Many glue joints can be broken by freezing and to that is what I would do with this car if I wanted to get the floor out.
Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Bill Welch
Ben:
Hmm, I have no idea what RTFQ and ATFQ mean. Hope that does not make me a bad person. Bill Welch |
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Benjamin Hom
Bill Welch asked:
"Hmm, I have no idea what RTFQ and ATFQ mean. Hope that does not make me a bad person." This website will help: http://www.urbandictionary.com Ben Hom |
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Bill,
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RTFQ - Read the Question
ATFQ - Answer the Question
and some other popular ones...
CTFD - Close the Door
STFU - Shut up!
‘nough said
Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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