MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car: never a Santa Fe car!


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The old Athearn hwt RPO & baggage cars are, as has been mentioned, nowhere close to anything owned by Santa Fe.   Legit Santa Fe head cars are amply documented in a book authored by Shine & Ellington on that subject.  
 
If you visit the Santa Fe society website, the company store has had etched brass & cast resin kits available for several versions of storage mail cars, a 3 door mail/RPO combine and  a horse express car.  Those car kits are exact matches to specific Santa Fe cars.   Tom Schnied of NKP car provided the etched cars sides and packed the kits, and I know the guy that did the resin masters.  Admittedly they're a little more effort to build, but the results are well worth it.
 
You can kitbash the old IHC/AHM RPO 1920's combine into a few classes of storage mail cars that were converted by the railroad in the 1940's, but that was a subject for a clinic given years ago. The power point presentations are on the Santa Fe society website, but I'm not sure if they're available in a public, non member area.   (Steve Sandifer can answer that)  
 
The roof contour on the Athearn cars is also way off, so, I would not waste the effort in cutting them up or re-detailing them unless you're restricted to short cars.  But please, don't letter them "Santa Fe"! 
 
Tom Casey
 
  
ATSF hwt had no chair rail on the side. ATSF prototypes normally had the unique channel sill at the base of the sides. So no, the Athearn hwt is not ATSF.


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC]"
Date:04/20/2015 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [STMFC] MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

 
All,

The old claim that the Athearn "Standard" baggage car represents a Santa Fe prototype has cropped up on the B&O list. My Santa Fe passenger car references are somewhat lacking - would any of the Santa Fe modelers care to comment?

I'm very skeptical of the claim, and suspect that over the years modelers have applied the fact that the "Streamline" baggage represents a Santa Fe prototype (which is true) to the "Standard" baggage (which is dubious unless someone can prove otherwise).

Ben Hom
 
 
 
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

 
ATSF hwt had no chair rail on the side. ATSF prototypes normally had the unique channel sill at the base of the sides. So no, the Athearn hwt is not ATSF.


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC]"
Date:04/20/2015 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: STMFC List
Subject: [STMFC] MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

 
All,

The old claim that the Athearn "Standard" baggage car represents a Santa Fe prototype has cropped up on the B&O list. My Santa Fe passenger car references are somewhat lacking - would any of the Santa Fe modelers care to comment?

I'm very skeptical of the claim, and suspect that over the years modelers have applied the fact that the "Streamline" baggage represents a Santa Fe prototype (which is true) to the "Standard" baggage (which is dubious unless someone can prove otherwise).

Ben Hom


Benjamin Hom
 

Tom Casey wrote:
"You can kitbash the old IHC/AHM RPO 1920's combine into a few classes of storage mail cars that were converted by the railroad in the 1940's, but that was a subject for a clinic given years ago. The power point presentations are on the Santa Fe society website, but I'm not sure if they're available in a public, non member area.   (Steve Sandifer can answer that)"

http://www.atsfrr.org/resources/CaseyTom/Prototype_Model_From_Toy_Train.pdf




Ben Hom
 


mwbauers
 

Folks…….

The link worked just fine for me.

Thanks !!

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Apr 21, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Tom Casey wrote:
"You can kitbash the old IHC/AHM RPO 1920's combine into a few classes of storage mail cars that were converted by the railroad in the 1940's, but that was a subject for a clinic given years ago. The power point presentations are on the Santa Fe society website, but I'm not sure if they're available in a public, non member area.   (Steve Sandifer can answer that)"





Ben Hom