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"Xxtreme Modeling" presentation link
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Bill Welch
For anyone interested here is the link to my "Xxtreme Modeling" presentation done at Cocoa Beach, Collinsville and Lisle in 2015: Xxtreme Modeling FINAL Web Version.pdf
It is copyrighted but it is okay to share with friends. Bill |
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gtws00
Bill,
Thanks for posting this presentation link. You have a lot of good modeling tips in it. George Toman |
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Good stuff Bill. You are the yardstick that the rest of our modeling efforts will be measured againxt. Fenton Wells On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:35 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Bill, Thank you for posting. Some really great guidelines for improving the finer details on our models. This should help many of us to become better prototype modelers. Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV On Monday, October 26, 2015 8:35 AM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote: For anyone interested here is the link to my "Xxtreme Modeling" presentation done at Cocoa Beach, Collinsville and Lisle in 2015: Xxtreme Modeling FINAL Web Version.pdf
It is copyrighted but it is okay to share with friends. Bill
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Philip Lee
Good stuff. I kinda feel a bit intimidated now; a very few of my cars even have molded on grabs. Back to the car shop... :) -Philip Lee On Monday, October 26, 2015 5:19 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" wrote: Bill, Thank you for posting. Some really great guidelines for improving the finer details on our models. This should help many of us to become better prototype modelers. Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV On Monday, October 26, 2015 8:35 AM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote: For anyone interested here is the link to my "Xxtreme Modeling" presentation done at Cocoa Beach, Collinsville and Lisle in 2015: Xxtreme Modeling FINAL Web Version.pdf
It is copyrighted but it is okay to share with friends. Bill
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Bill Welch
Dear Phillip:
I hope that feeling passes quickly as intimidation was far from my goal with this. Well not completely true, I do want to intimidate modelers to improve their sill steps. Just kidding, a little. Hah! I am hoping I can inspire people to build. . . period. Don't be afraid of all those small parts and hey, you can even make some yourself. Do what makes you happy. Recently I have confessed to anyone who will listen that I am intimidated by weathering, mainly because of my colorblindness, and once I did I started experimenting and from the feedback I have received I have been successful. We all have our growing edges. Bill Welch |
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Philip Lee
Hi Bill, I was joking. In all seriousness, that's pretty impressive. I'd definitely like for my cars to be that accurate; but, I'd also like to be able to do that sort of work on my own. I have built a few fairly basic resin kits, but I had never considered things like sill steps, tank car pipe/rod brackets, adding NBWs to brake wheels, etc. I think part of my hangup is my lack of knowledge about where details (especially underbody details) would have been placed, though I'm somewhat familiar with the general layouts of AB and K-brake systems (even these could vary too!). Hope to see some of your cars in person sometime. -Phil Lee On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 2:24 PM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote: Dear Phillip: I hope that feeling passes quickly as intimidation was far from my goal with this. Well not completely true, I do want to intimidate modelers to improve their sill steps. Just kidding, a little. Hah! I am hoping I can inspire people to build. . . period. Don't be afraid of all those small parts and hey, you can even make some yourself. Do what makes you happy. Recently I have confessed to anyone who will listen that I am intimidated by weathering, mainly because of my colorblindness, and once I did I started experimenting and from the feedback I have received I have been successful. We all have our growing edges. Bill Welch
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Greg Martin
Bill,
What a great presentation. After seeing the presentation in CCB this past
January the repeat was not as scary... 3^)
I love to see modeling like this and Schuyler as you well know is on the
verge just you.
I think regardless whatever we get out of this presentation what we should
take away is that we should all return to modeling again. Challenge
ourselves to take one of the examples here and apply them to out modeling. We
should set a minimum set of standards for ourselves and as we get better move
those standards ahead even if we start with something as simple as an ACCURAIL
freight car. Hiding behind, "I have a layout to build and that takes all my
time..." does really doesn't make sense when I see Clark do both. Turn off the
computer and put your skills to the challenge.
I do want to say I am impressed.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean In a message dated 10/26/2015 5:35:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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Clark Propst
I saw Bill’s clinic at Naperville. Afterwards a friend said. “Bet he
doesn’t have a layout.” I think things need to be taken in context. I understand
there are guys that just enjoy building models. Just because they choose to
build train models doesn’t mean they ‘have’ to have a layout.
The higher you set the bar when building a layout the smaller it becomes,
Bill Darnaby being an exception. Large layouts usually are built with a total
different mindset where operations are foremost. At age 69 my new layout will be
built realizing time is limited.
I haven’t been able to do any modeling since spring, but keep accumulating
freight car kits and material for scratch building structures. Pretty soon I’m
going to have to scratch that itch ; ))
Clark
Propst
Mason City Iowa take away is that we should all return to modeling again. Challenge ourselves to take one of the examples here and apply them to out modeling. We should set a minimum set of standards for ourselves and as we get better move those standards ahead even if we start with something as simple as an ACCURAIL freight car. Hiding behind, "I have a layout to build and that takes all my time..." does really doesn't make sense when I see Clark do both. Turn off the computer and put your skills to the challenge. Greg Martin |
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tyesac@...
Right on that Greg & Clark. One thing you could consider is that many model builders that don't have a home layout instead belong to a club. That was my case while I lived in an apartment for several years.
The main thing though is put down that gadget and do somthing!
Tom Casey
-----Original Message----- From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC] To: STMFC Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 8:57 am Subject: [STMFC] Re: "Xxtreme Modeling" presentation link I saw Bill’s clinic at Naperville. Afterwards a friend said. “Bet he
doesn’t have a layout.” I think things need to be taken in context. I understand
there are guys that just enjoy building models. Just because they choose to
build train models doesn’t mean they ‘have’ to have a layout.
The higher you set the bar when building a layout the smaller it becomes,
Bill Darnaby being an exception. Large layouts usually are built with a total
different mindset where operations are foremost. At age 69 my new layout will be
built realizing time is limited.
I haven’t been able to do any modeling since spring, but keep accumulating
freight car kits and material for scratch building structures. Pretty soon I’m
going to have to scratch that itch ; ))
Clark
Propst
Mason City Iowa take away is that we should all return to modeling again. Challenge ourselves to take one of the examples here and apply them to out modeling. We should set a minimum set of standards for ourselves and as we get better move those standards ahead even if we start with something as simple as an ACCURAIL freight car. Hiding behind, "I have a layout to build and that takes all my time..." does really doesn't make sense when I see Clark do both. Turn off the computer and put your skills to the challenge. Greg Martin |
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Bill Welch
It is true I do not have a layout but I am developing some ideas of what I want to do with what I am calling a large Diorama that will have a couple of scenes requiring switching. One scene will be Fresh Produce oriented (big surprise) and the other something typical of a medium size town with a mill or small plant of some kind. I am going to hire Lance Mindheim to design the Track Layout. At age 69, soon to be 70 there is only so much I can do. I will probably apply some of my Detail Addiction to the the track, not all of it but probably in the scenes and what can be easily seen.
Meanwhile I have some structures under construction. To me it is about picking up our tools and using them to challenge ourselves. My current challenge is developing confidence with weathering. Stay tuned for information on my Clinic Theme for 2016. Here is a hint: It involves only basic one tool. That should simplify things. (Yeah right, LOL) Looking forward to 2016 Prototype Rails on The Beach. Bill Welch |
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Armand Premo
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Guyz,Just couldn't resist getting in,perhaps even
over my head.I know of individuals that have really gone to the
extreme.Their layout and roster is for a specific railroad on a specific
day....now,that is extreme.I have been fortunate enough to have a collection of
wheel reports for the railroads I model and use these lists as sort of a
shopping list.Extreme by some standards,of course.I tend to invite modelers to
my rare op sessions who tend to know less about the road that I model than I
do.Thus I can get away with more inaccuratisms.In summary we sometime go
overboard striving to recapture an era long gone.My 2 and1/2 cents worth.Armand
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There was a lot to think about in this presentation. However the comment that "I'll bet he doesn't have a model railroad" and then that he must belong to a club then, did strike a bit of a nerve. I have an almost completed Dry Creek Models F-35A 3D printed kit that will see the rails sometime next week. Taking it slowly. Most of the time is in painting and decaling, My shunting plank is somewhat UK in nature representing Padstow in Cornwall in the summer of 1947. 6 months before nationalization. But my current freight car model building interest is currently Southern Pacific oriented focusing on equipment that would have run on the SP San Ramon branch in 1951-54. The plank being 4 mm scale for scenery but 16.5 mm gauge track that allows US "Lend Lease" equipment ("Black Widow" diesels and early 1950's freight) to run with only Rule 1 applying. The shunting plank has been some what neglected for upgrades for the last 4 years. But still serves it's purpose in giving me a small place to run equipment and even follow an operations plan that mimics the daily schedule (pronounced shed_yule not sked_yule) of the Southern Railway on a weekday in August of 1947. SP operations are limited to building and rebuilding local freights serving the suburban real estate construction boom that started in the 1950's in the San Ramon valley. Ken Adams |
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gtws00
After seeing Bill's presentation I decided to see how I could use his modeling techniques and my own on a Milwaukee Road Ribside 40 foot boxcar. I have added a couple of photos to the photo section to an album called Milwaukee Road Ribside. It has a scratch built Royal F Type slack adjuster with Sergents scale Couplers and more. The more research I do, the more I find I need to add or modify on the Ribside Kit.
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gary laakso
Speedwitch just released its new Railroad Profile 2 on these cars post
war. I just ordered my copy, so no review available now.
gary “scrapping rivets” laakso
south of Mike Brock
From: mailto:STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 8:26 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] "Xxtreme Modeling" presentation
link After seeing Bill's presentation I decided to see how I could use his
modeling techniques and my own on a Milwaukee Road Ribside 40 foot boxcar. I
have added a couple of photos to the photo section to an album called Milwaukee
Road Ribside. It has a scratch built Royal F Type slack adjuster with Sergents
scale Couplers and more. The more research I do, the more I find I need to add
or modify on the Ribside Kit. |
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Greg Martin
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