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DT&I 41' Gon was GM&O Gon
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I was just looking at three unbuilt Proto2000 52' gons the other day thinking I don't need three, but the link provided for the GM&O decals http://home.mindspring.com/~paducah/icg77.htm give me another idea. A simple kitbash by cutting the three middle sections of the Proto2000 52' gon as described at the link above gives me a 41' DT&I Gon that works in my 1949 modeling year. Now does anyone know where I can get decals and a photo of said gon? Thanks Mark Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com
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al_brown03
The DT&I gondola, some later sold to the GM&O, is the prototype for the 2010 Cocoa Beach Shake & Take project. A handout with photos is in the files of the Shake_N_Take group, and some members of that group may have decals. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Bill Welch
Mont Switzer did this kitbash instead of using the Athearn gon for the Cocoa beach "Shake & Take" DT&I gon project. Suggest you join the S&T group and explore the resources there.
Bill Welch
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Greg Martin
Mark,
This will result in a stand in at best. There is no simple way to do this
except for a bash with the Athearn car.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 2/18/2016 3:37:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes:
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Greg Martin
Correct he did and then John Greedy pointed out why it doesn't really work
and Mont was in Oh Well mode. 3^(
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 2/18/2016 6:22:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes:
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Al, bill and Greg Thanks for the direction. I downloaded the 2010 S&T PDF I'll give it a read this weekend. I knew it could not be as easy as a few quick cuts🙁 Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com
On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:22 PM, tgregmrtn@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Daniel Kohlberg
I prefer to save the phrase "stand in at best" for some other project. I built my GM&O cars from my stash of P2K kits in 2005 or so. Maybe I am missing something, but... -The P2K gon allows me to get the right length in 2 major cuts. The Athearn Gon requires 6 major cuts. (4 to shorten body, 2 to remove ends) -The P2K Gon gives me the right ends. The Athearn route requires scratch built or custom cast ends. -The P2K Gon give me the right underframe, trimmed similar to the body, complete with brake gear. The Athearn Gon has an incorrect drop centersill with no brake gear. -The P2K Gon has correct stirrups, grabs etc. out of the box, It also gives me interior and floor detail. -The P2K Gon is a finer level of tooling, and just as cheap. Who didn't buy stacks of P2K kits back in the day for $5? -And even more importantly for me: my P2k cars were a 2-day project. I understand the merits of a Shake and Take project, and that things are donated for some group fun and group execution of the same model. But I really don't care about that. The Athearn Gon just seems like the long way to go, even if it is "free." Yes, I do get a slightly cheated floor height with the P2K Gon. Yes, the 4 middle ribs on the side drop are a hair short on a P2K kitbash. This can be fixed with some styrene modeling. Perhaps some of us consider that easier than scratch building ends and dealing with the shortcomings of a 50 year old Athearn kludge. Have a great weekend everyone! Dan Kohlberg
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Greg Martin
Dan and all,
This is not a "my dog is bigger than your dog" note.
The Athearn is a dirty little bash to be quite honest. However, it was well
researched by Richard Hendrickson and I did my homework as well by
converting the builders photos to scale to acquire the dimensions and verify
them. No need to defend the results.
If you want to do the project from the P2K car be my guest and the
instructions from the SHAKE N TAKE project will certainly help with things like
a better representation of the drop end casting.
Regardless, keep modeling and make compromises when you have to.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean Dan writes:
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riverman_vt@...
Just another thought on this coversion job. Might there be any value
in trying to use an Athearn mid section with Proto 2000 ends??? Haven't really looked but just wondering. Perhaps the two won't mate well enough. Cordially, Don Valentine
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