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photo of Erie FD car
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Tony Thompson
Does anyone have or know of a source for photos of the Erie flat cars, Class FD, 7208-7212? Any help appreciated.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Tony Thompson
Thanks to Claus Schlund, Richard Brennan, and others who helped with this. Assistance much appreciated.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Schuyler Larrabee
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-f7210jwa.jpg
Not the greatest of photos but I may have something better in my files. This is from Elwood's Fallen Flags web page . . . which reminds me I need to send him some funding so he can keep his site up and functioning . . . Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 2:53 PM To: Era Freight Car List Steam Subject: [STMFC] photo of Erie FD car Does anyone have or know of a source for photos of the Erie flat cars, Class FD, 7208-7212? Any help appreciated. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Schuyler is that a cast steel flat car?? I didn't realize those were made as early as 1929 ! Tim O'Connor http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-f7210jwa.jpg |
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Schuyler Larrabee
I >>THINK<< it is, but I am not sure. I'll look in my diagram book later to
see. E&P did a model that looks a lot like the photo I linked, but the data in the box is a later series which appears to be a built-up car. Schuyler Schuyler is that a cast steel flat car?? I didn't realize those were made as early as 1929 ! Tim O'Connor http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-f7210jwa.jpg Not the greatest of photos but I may have something better in my files. This is from Elwood's Fallen Flags web page . . . which reminds me I need to send him some funding so he can keep his site up and functioning . . . Schuyler Does anyone have or know of a source for photos of the Erie flat cars, Class FD, 7208-7212? Any help appreciated. Tony Thompson |
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destorzek@...
---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote : I >>THINK<< it is, but I am not sure. I'll look in my diagram book later to see. http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-f7210jwa.jpg ==================== I'm sure it is cast. The decades 'tween the wars were really the golden years of large castings. Commonwealth developed the capacity to cast one-piece locomotive frames, then started looking for other products. One piece cast steel tender "beds" (combined tank floor and underframe) were common; also offered for tankcars, but didn't catch on, maybe too heavy. The cast steel flatcars the Pennsylvainia Railroad had date to about the same time. The GSC flatcars that lots of roads had were really latecomers. Dennis Storzek |
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Tony Thompson
Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Thanks for responding, Schuyler. This is a copy of the photo that was in a Cyc, and I now know it's findable several places. Tony Thompson |
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al_brown03
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but there's also a photo of Erie 7208 in the Morning Sun EL color guide, p 40. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. |
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William Dale
As mentioned earlier about the years these type of flats were cast, the Reading took and order of 5 during June and July of 1928 at 137.5 ton rating, interestingly enough the 1953 Car Builders Cyclopedia shows a Western Maryland 6004 Commonwealth depressed center flat same as the Erie 7208-12 and Reading 99045-49 (I'm almost positive this was a kit done by Red Ball years back, and Eastern Car works made the trucks). Also to it was noted of a brass import by E&P models which I "think" was a later version of a 125 ton version. I say this as the Lehigh Valley has two versions of that style, and a company drawing refers to Wabash C-4022-9, these we assembled at Packerton in 1953,54.
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Tony Thompson
Bill Dale wrote:
No, the Red Ball (later Cannonball Car Shops) kit was a riveted car, which matched the PRR F29 design. It was definitely not a cast-steel car and does not match the photos of various Commonwealth cars. Red Ball recommended Buckeye trucks, which the F29 had, instead of the striking Commonwealth trucks on many of the Commonwealth cast steel cars. Tony Thompson |
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Schuyler Larrabee
I have one of the E&P Models cars, which is an ERIE-specific model. E&P’s i.d. on the box is GS 58-101. The ERIE series was 7260-7265 built 1948, plus a second series 7266-7270 built 1950. This data from the paperwork included in the E&P model box.
There were eight other versions, for GS-102 NH, GS-103 NYC, GS-104 and 104A UP (two versions), and then it gets complicated. GS-105: AT&SF 90000, LV, MKT, MP, SLSF all “friction” bearing trucks GS-105A: ATSF 90000 rblt with roller bearings, ACL cars blt 1957, RB trucks GS-106: B&O, IC, LV, SAL, SBD all “friction” bearing trucks GS-106A: UP, SOO, SCL, SCEX, MP, SR, ICG, C&EI, all RB trucks. Schuyler As mentioned earlier about the years these type of flats were cast, the Reading took and order of 5 during June and July of 1928 at 137.5 ton rating, interestingly enough the 1953 Car Builders Cyclopedia shows a Western Maryland 6004 Commonwealth depressed center flat same as the Erie 7208-12 and Reading 99045-49 (I'm almost positive this was a kit done by Red Ball years back, and Eastern Car works made the trucks). Also to it was noted of a brass import by E&P models which I "think" was a later version of a 125 ton version. I say this as the Lehigh Valley has two versions of that style, and a company drawing refers to Wabash C-4022-9, these we assembled at Packerton in 1953,54. Bill Dale [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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