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Tangent Radial Tank Car
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Nelson Moyer
I haven’t seen any information on which type of brakes are on the painted undecorated RTR car, i.e. KC or AB. Anybody know?
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Scott H. Haycock
Nelson, On the website: http://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-8000-gallon-1917-design-radial-course-tank-car/ Click on the picture box, on the right side of the page, for the model you're interested in. You'll get an expanded description including that information. Scott Haycock I haven’t seen any information on which type of brakes are on the painted undecorated RTR car, i.e. KC or AB. Anybody know?
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Scott,
Yeah, but… for the undec RTR,
it doesn’t show or say if it has K or AB brakes… so your suggestion, while useful for the decorated models, is not so useful to actually answer the question that has been asked ;) (We’ll assume that the kit allows both)
Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Scott H. Haycock
Bruce, My mistake. I looked all over the website, but couldn't find that info on the undecorated RTR car. Maybe they will come out with a version of each. Other options include dome heights and fittings, Cardwell draft springs, handbrakes- you get the picture. Scott Haycock
Scott,
Yeah, but… for the undec RTR,
it doesn’t show or say if it has K or AB brakes… so your suggestion, while useful for the decorated models, is not so useful to actually answer the question that has been asked ;) (We’ll assume that the kit allows both)
Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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John Barry
Beautiful cars. And the lettering on the 1920+ UTLX matches the builder's photo very well. The trucks are upgraded on the model though to a 50 ton truck making the cars accurate for my 1945 era where all but three in the UTLX 70000-70999 series had 100000 pound capacity. I think they probably had been reweighed and remarked with the higher capacity when the trucks changed. Its still a great looking car that is needed for the Standard Oil of California at Richmond that will be one of my large customers. I plan to get a number of them. I was lucky to obtain four of the Sunshine X-3's, those I could really use a bunch of but these are a good start. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736 From: "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" To: "STMFC cataldotj@... [STMFC]" Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Tangent Radial Tank Car
Scott,
Yeah, but… for the undec RTR,
it doesn’t show or say if it has K or AB brakes… so your suggestion, while useful for the decorated models, is not so useful to actually answer the question that has been asked ;) (We’ll assume that the kit allows both)
Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Clark Propst
The lettering on the Tangent cars is outstanding. I understand some wanting
an undec kit, but why would someone want an undec RTR car? Just
curious.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa |
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Bill Welch
I model October 1955, 2+ years after K Brakes were banned. No UTLX car YET, for my time period. No General American at all YET.
Bill Welch |
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gary laakso
Clark, modelers might want the car lettered differently
and someone mentioned Sinclair and that Black Cat had the decals. Maybe
they want to spend their kit time on resin kits!
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
From: mailto:STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 7:12 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tangent Radial Tank Car
The lettering on the Tangent cars is outstanding. I understand some wanting
an undec kit, but why would someone want an undec RTR car? Just
curious.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa |
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I would get the AB brake version and see about changing the
reweigh date. The 1958 one is a bit curious, anyway, although there is
undoubtedly photo evidence to support it. UTLX did a lot of its AB brake
conversions in the years between WWII and 1953. The conversion would
certainly result in a weight change. I believe David will use other dates
and other numbers in future runs, assuming these sell well, as they
should.
I have the opposite problem in that I wanted a K brake
version. So now I have to decide how to deal with the delivery paint with
Union Tank Car Company over on the lower right hand side of the tank, because by
the 1930's, they were placing that phrase above the reporting marks, as on the
AB brake version.
For anyone with a tariff list that is wondering, UTLX
purchased 1000 of these 8000 gallon tanks to the GAT design in 1920 that were
originally numbered in the 70xxx range, as the builder's photo shows. But
these cars were later renumbered into the higher ranges of the 7xxxx
sequence to allow the low end of the sequence to contain 10000 gallon Class Z
cars, as they were being picked up, second hand, during the
1930's.
Tangent has got a nice winner here!
Steve Hile From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 6:22 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tangent Radial Tank Car I model October 1955, 2+ years after K Brakes were banned. No UTLX car YET, for my time period. No General American at all YET. Bill Welch
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Dave Parker
Steve: Yes I was wondering. In addition to the 1936 tariff book, which lists these road numbers as 10,000 gallon cars, there were no 702xxx or 703xx cars in either the 1926 or 1930 ORERs. This suggests that the "upward" renumbering you mention took place very soon after these cars were built. Do you have any additional insights? Thanks as always for your advice and expertise in all things UTLX. Dave Parker Riverside, CA On Monday, November 14, 2016 5:03 PM, "'Steve and Barb Hile' shile@... [STMFC]" wrote: I would get the AB brake version and see about changing the
reweigh date. The 1958 one is a bit curious, anyway, although there is
undoubtedly photo evidence to support it. UTLX did a lot of its AB brake
conversions in the years between WWII and 1953. The conversion would
certainly result in a weight change. I believe David will use other dates
and other numbers in future runs, assuming these sell well, as they
should.
I have the opposite problem in that I wanted a K brake
version. So now I have to decide how to deal with the delivery paint with
Union Tank Car Company over on the lower right hand side of the tank, because by
the 1930's, they were placing that phrase above the reporting marks, as on the
AB brake version.
For anyone with a tariff list that is wondering, UTLX
purchased 1000 of these 8000 gallon tanks to the GAT design in 1920 that were
originally numbered in the 70xxx range, as the builder's photo shows. But
these cars were later renumbered into the higher ranges of the 7xxxx
sequence to allow the low end of the sequence to contain 10000 gallon Class Z
cars, as they were being picked up, second hand, during the
1930's.
Tangent has got a nice winner here!
Steve Hile From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 6:22 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tangent Radial Tank Car I model October 1955, 2+ years after K Brakes were banned. No UTLX car YET,
for my time period. No General American at all YET.
Bill Welch
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Bill Vaughn
Undecorated Unpainted RTRare available and ready for decaling. Our unpainted RTR car comes configured with a K-brake system, with Cardwell draft springs, and a “flat” hand brake. These models will be great for those who desire to model their own. Available December 13. Bill Vaughn On Monday, November 14, 2016 12:07 PM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote:
Scott,
Yeah, but… for the undec RTR,
it doesn’t show or say if it has K or AB brakes… so your suggestion, while useful for the decorated models, is not so useful to actually answer the question that has been asked ;) (We’ll assume that the kit allows both)
Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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What's all this talk about reweighing tank cars? As far as I know
there was no requirement to reweigh tank cars. The gallonage was the only number that shippers cared about, or were charged for. There were shopping date stencils. Tim O'Connor |
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Tony Thompson
Tim O'Connor wrote:
As I pointed out yesterday. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Tom Larsen
Tim
O’Conner asked: What's
all this talk about reweighing tank cars? As far as I know there was no requirement to reweigh tank cars. The gallonage was the only number that shippers cared about, or were charged for. There were shopping date stencils. ****************** I
asked about when you could expect to find a car with the 4-23-40 date like the
Deep Rock car in active service. As
I did not know if the date was applied during shopping, servicing or
reweighing or for any other reason, I asked a general question Lots
of info from the list as usual. Thanks Tom
Larsen Holte,
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Tangent Scale Models
I apologize for the confusion with the undecorated variants
for our new GATC 1917-design 8000 gallon tank cars. I would like to clear
up a few items that were raised here and by some at Trainfest. I am sorry for the delay but it has been a
busy few days for Tangent. 3. We WILL offer
AB-brake undecorated kit and RTR versions in 2017. Please hang tight and we will produce more. Angry emails will not make them come faster, but we did this intentionally to make things simple during production (the complexity is in the RTR cars). 4. The UTLX 1958 page on our website has a prototype image that we worked off of. That page is here: http://www.tangentscalemodels.com/product/utlx-black-repaint-1958-gatc-1917-design-8000-gallon-tank-car/ 5. We will offer more UTLX paint schemes down the road. 6. We will offer other schemes down the road too, but first we need to sell out this run. 7. Yes, the three compartment 1928-design GATC tank car we offer is a prototypical GATC model, and yes, we still have quite a few schemes in stock. Prototype photos are on each detail page. Those are here: http://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-6000-gal-3-comp-tank-car/ 8. No, the 1917-design car is not Tangent's first steam-era product! It is our 5th all-new freight car originally produced before 1952.
Finally, I would like to thank a handful of people who have helped Tangent with
our new GATC tank: Al Hoffman, Ted Culotta, Dan Holbrook, Ed Hawkins, and Jerry Stewart. Thank you to you all. |
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