More Photos from the Erie Lackawanna web site
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Charlie Vlk
How does one get to the Erie historical photos to search for a particular location? I want to see if there are any Erie photos in Chicago vicinity of the St. Charles Air Line. Thanks, Charlie Vlk |
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Thanks for sharing. There sure is a lot of lumber around that single XL. Interesting scene the boards look to be about 4-5 long any ideas on their use? Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:51 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Eric Hansmann
Charlie,
I have not fond a way to search their site. Here’s the page where I usually start trolling around.
http://lists.railfan.net/mplist.cgi?erielack-photo
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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How does one get to the Erie historical photos to search for a particular location? I want to see if there are any Erie photos in Chicago vicinity of the St. Charles Air Line. Thanks, Charlie Vlk
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I was hoping SGL would post first but here goes. First these are not EL photos. They are in Steamtown's collection and posted to the EL mailing list daily (usually) by Pat McKnight of the NPS. They are posted to the EL mailing list since the are generally on the Erie/DL&W east of Binghamton NY. Pat posts them for interest and in many cases to determine additional information about the photos. The easiest way to see them are his daily posts. The list can be found at. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ The archive is here And the photo archive is here Brian J. Carlson On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:14 PM, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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I find the lading of interest here. I don't see how to determine if this is the loading point or the unloading point. A lot of wood cut to a rather specific size but being allowed to weather. I'm thinking these could be an early step towards barrel staves. Other thoughts? Chuck Peck in FL On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Eric Hansmann
Barrel staves were the first thing that came to my mind.
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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I find the lading of interest here. I don't see how to determine if this is the loading point or the unloading point. A lot of wood cut to a rather specific size but being allowed to weather. I'm thinking these could be an early step towards barrel staves. Other thoughts? Chuck Peck in FL
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM, rwitt_2000@...
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A PRR 27501 class XL
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Ken O'Brien
Most of these photos are from DL&W glass plates formerly stored at Syracuse University. The University donated them to Steamtown. Pat McKnight, the curator, posts a number each day to verify the info they have for the slides. Lately, Pat has posted some Erie main line station photos, but for the most part, these photos we see are shots from the 1920s, shot by Lackawanna company photographers. Trying to pinpoint locations one hundred years or so after the fact gets sporty. SGL does good work, rooting out the many freight cars photos that show up in these old glass plate negatives. So please enjoy the photos.
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Scott H. Haycock
I'm wondering if this car is being used for storage? The dimensional data is all but illegible, and it's hard to tell, but is the coupler on the B end missing? Notice the words "knuckle pin" above the lowest ladder rung on the right side, and the arrows pointing towards the coupler area. And what could that curly-looking stuff be in the center of the car, through the open door? Could those be bullet holes to the left of the door? The details at the edge of the roof stand out pretty well in this image. Great photo! Scott Haycock Barrel staves were the first thing that came to my mind.
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Charlie Vlk
Eric-
Thanks. I wish I could find a treasure trove of similar glass plate negatives for the CB&Q!!! Charlie Vlk From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:14 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] More Photos from the Erie Lackawanna web site Charlie, I have not fond a way to search their site. Here's the page where I usually start trolling around. http://lists.railfan.net/mplist.cgi?erielack-photo Maybe some ELRHS members can offer more assistance. Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX _____ From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:08 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] More Photos from the Erie Lackawanna web site How does one get to the Erie historical photos to search for a particular location? I want to see if there are any Erie photos in Chicago vicinity of the St. Charles Air Line. Thanks, Charlie Vlk |
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Dave Parker
I would have guessed wooden boxes/crates. Although corrugated boxes were certainly in use by 1919, I don't think they had completely supplanted wood in the shipping business. Dave Parker Riverside, CA On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:13 PM, "'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC]" wrote: Barrel staves were the first thing that
came to my mind.
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX
From:
STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:12 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] More Photos from the Erie Lackawanna web site I find the lading of interest here. I don't see how to determine
if this is the loading point
or the unloading point. A lot of wood cut to a rather specific
size but being allowed to
weather. I'm thinking these could be an early step towards barrel
staves. Other thoughts?
Chuck Peck in FL
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM, rwitt_2000@...
[STMFC] <STMFC@...>
wrote: A PRR 27501 class XL Bob Witt http://lists.railfan.net/ erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01- 03-17/X1203.jpg |
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Tony Thompson
Dave Parker wrote:
I think cardboard took over MUCH later than 1919. Certainly in produce shipping, not until the 1950s. Appliances were still shipped in wooden crates prior to World War II, not sure about afterwards. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Possibly, but before corrugated paper boxes, thin wood boxes and baskets
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were used for just about everything. Barrels are usually more substantial. I find the lading of interest here.� I don't see how to determine if this is the loading point |
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Jeffrey White
This film, The Freight Goes Through dates from the 1950s and shows appliances in crates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT8WIXDxbyE Jeff White Alma, IL On 1/3/2017 7:45 PM, Tony Thompson
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Dave Parker
Tony: We don't disagree. I probably erred on the side of caution in my wording. FWIW, this is what Wiki has to say: "The first corrugated cardboard box manufactured in the USA was in 1895.[16] By the early 1900s, wooden crates and boxes were being replaced by corrugated paper shipping cartons." Absent data, I too would guess that wooden containers dominated the market through the twenties at a minimum. Dave Parker Riverside, CA |
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Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
Tony & Group,
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Appliances were still be shipped in wood crates in the early 1950s. The apartment house that we lived down the street from did a major refitting of appliances that arrived in wooden crates. These crates were set out as trash in the alley from where my Dad salvaged several and constructed a playhouse for me in our back yard. Cheers, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
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Ray Breyer
Don't forget about strawboard, which is a little earlier than cardboard and was easier to make. In the Midwest, "strawboard tracks" pop up all over the place on railroad track charts and on Sanborn maps for local, small box makers. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
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Ray Breyer
>>I wish I could find a treasure trove of similar glass plate negatives for the CB&Q!!! >>Charlie Vlk Keep looking through these shots, Charlie. I've found 22 CB&Q cars in them so far, including boxcars, reefers, and even a stock car (CB&Q 53035, loaded with hogs in Hoboken in December 1921). Elgin, IL |
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