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early ORER's


mike barone
 

Gentlemen:
Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,
Thanks
Mike Barone


Jack Burgess
 

The California State Railroad Museum Library most likely has copies of those ORERs and can make photocopies for you:



https://www.californiarailroad.museum/visit/library



Give them a call during open hours.



Jack Burgess







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Gentlemen:

Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,

Thanks

Mike Barone










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Ray Breyer
 

Most of them are online as PDFs (or as e-books...yuk) on Google Books. Most specifically, 82 monthly issues between March 1905 and December 1915.

Eric Lombard has an Excel spreadsheet in this group's files section, listing the Google PLAY e-book links. It takes a little cross-digging, but all of the PDFs are also readily available from the more conventional Google Books site.
 
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



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Gentlemen:
Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,
Thanks
Mike Barone





SUVCWORR@...
 

Some of them are on google books and can be downloaded  1901, 03, 05, 07, 08, 09, 13, 17

Rich Orr


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Gentlemen:
Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,
Thanks
Mike Barone



Richard Townsend
 

The California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento has an excellent collection of ORERs in their library, which is open to the public.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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Gentlemen:
Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,
Thanks
Mike Barone


Ted Culotta
 

Mike,

If you know someone in the Bay Area who wants to make a field trip, I believe that Stanford has a very extensive collection.

Cheers,
Ted


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Mike and List Members,

I realize fully that the issue I am about to mention is NOT within the range Mike asked about, but the Jun 1917 ORER can be found at the link below:

https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_1A3WAAAAMAAJ

Claus Schlund

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The California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento has an excellent collection of ORERs in their library, which is open to the public.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR



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Gentlemen:
Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,
Thanks
Mike Barone







Ian Cranstone
 

On 2017-02-28, at 7:03 PM, SUVCWORR@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Would anyone happen to know where I could access ORER's for the 1905-1915 period? I have checked with the NMRA library and they do list the material but it is still in the middle of a move to Sacramento so cannot access these and it maybe some time before they will be available again. I have ORER's both pre and post period so it is only those years I'm lacking. Specifically what I need are the CPR pages for those years,


Mike, many of the ORERs from those years are indeed available at Google books... but, not on the Canadian side of the border -- Google knows, and will not allow full downloads outside of the U.S.  Searching for specific issues is also a little challenging with Google's search (oddly enough).

There are a selection of dates from 1890 through to November 1917, with most issues between 1907 and 1917 available.  However, these files are not small, running between 100-200 megs per issue.  I think I've managed to download all of the volumes that Google has digitized, having spent a lot of time with a U.S. proxy server (and maxed out my data cap more than once during the process).

Cheers,

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada


John
 

Here is a good place to look for ORERs, Official Guides, and other useful period publications.


John Bopp
Farmington Hills, MI

 


earlyrail
 

1910 and 1912 are also on google books
Howard Garner


Tony Thompson
 

If you know someone in the Bay Area who wants to make a field trip, I believe that Stanford has a very extensive collection.

    Stanford does have a copies back to 1885 but no longer permits copying. I was even told that you may not "qualify" to handle copies yourself. They are certainly fragile in the older issues and even a touch can fragment a page in a bad case.

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Ted Culotta
 

Wow! When my ex-wife worked there, I could check out ORERs, bound Railway Ages, and reports of the Committee on Car Construction for 6 months at a time (her boss was the Dickens scholar so I was able to ogle original Dickens manuscripts, too, but couldn't check those out!)

Ted


riverman_vt@...
 

Hi Tony,

    If Stanford will not allow many people to touch the older ORER's and 
will not make copies available what good are they to anyone?

My best, Don Valentine


rhammill
 

Westerfield has the 1905, 1911 and 1915 ones available:


Randy
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rhammill
 

And here's the 1905 one online:


Randy
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Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
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rhammill
 


Tony Thompson
 

First of all, you should make the effort to "qualify." Second, YOU can't make copies, but I was told they will make them from the more durable issues. Third, remember the days when we took notes on what we read? You know, back in the day.

Tony Thompson 


On Mar 1, 2017, at 5:25 PM, riverman_vt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tony,


    If Stanford will not allow many people to touch the older ORER's and 
will not make copies available what good are they to anyone?

My best, Don Valentine


Richard Townsend
 

I have a vague recollection of those days. Well, actually a sharp recollection. And it wasn't that long ago. When I went to the CSRM library a few years back they wouldn't copy ORERs that they didn't have duplicates of. So I transcribed the pages I needed from maybe 30 or so ORERs (I wanted the C&S info from every ORER they had). It was mildly tedious but I got the info I wanted. And actually it was easy to do.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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First of all, you should make the effort to "qualify." Second, YOU can't make copies, but I was told they will make them from the more durable issues. Third, remember the days when we took notes on what we read? You know, back in the day.

Tony Thompson 


On Mar 1, 2017, at 5:25 PM, riverman_vt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Hi Tony,

    If Stanford will not allow many people to touch the older ORER's and 
will not make copies available what good are they to anyone?

My best, Don Valentine


Eric Lombard
 

Good morning, Mike,

A list of all ORER volumes so far found between 1890 and 1917 on google books is provided in the files section under the file name "ORER 1893-1917 Google Books.xlsx". There are over 150 volumes included. Each listing is provided with a URL for quick access. The list is an amalgamation of volumes found (not easy) by Ray Breyer and myself and is updated about once a year if new volumes have been found.

Cheers

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Paul Krueger
 

The Barriger Library in St. Louis has quite a few ORERs.  I don't know how they feel about making copies, but 15 years ago they were out on the shelf and anyone who visited could lug one over to a photocopier.


Paul

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA