ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia
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Schuyler Larrabee
The vertical members of a rigid ladder are called stringers or rails (US) or stiles (UK).
Guys, it’s been driving me nuts to read about ladder styles. That’s not what they are called. The vertical parts are stringers, rails or stiles.
The horizontal parts are called “rungs.”
Schuyler
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Greg Martin
Schuyler/
They will let you go in and edit it. I agree I have never heard them called
stringers and actually I have only ever heard them called stiles.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 4/5/2017 3:34:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
STMFC@... writes:
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Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote : The vertical members of a rigid ladder are called stringers or rails (US) or stiles (UK).
Guys, it’s been driving me nuts to read about ladder styles. That’s not what they are called. The vertical parts are stringers, rails or stiles.
The horizontal parts are called “rungs.”
Schuyler ============ I would think the preferred term would be "stiles". That would be consistent with architectural usage, where the vertical members of a door or sash are stiles, while the horizontals are rails. Dennis Storzek
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Schuyler Larrabee
Dennis opines:
I would think the preferred term would be "stiles". That would be consistent with architectural usage, where the vertical members of a door or sash are stiles, while the horizontals are rails. Well, yes, that’s correct about DOORS, but we’re talking about ladders. But I do agree about using stiles for the vertical parts of a ladder. And ladders have rungs. Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:26 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia ---In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote : The vertical members of a rigid ladder are called stringers or rails (US) or stiles (UK). Guys, it’s been driving me nuts to read about ladder styles. That’s not what they are called. The vertical parts are stringers, rails or stiles. The horizontal parts are called “rungs.” Schuyler ============ I would think the preferred term would be "stiles". That would be consistent with architectural usage, where the vertical members of a door or sash are stiles, while the horizontals are rails. Dennis Storzek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Jeff Coleman
AAR Field Manual Rule 83 Jeff Coleman
On Apr 6, 2017 10:55 AM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Dave Parker
FWIW, there is an American Ladder Institute. They only seem to use the term (side) rail. I did not see stringer or stile in their list of recognized terms. Dave Parker Riverside, CA
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 7:51 AM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" wrote: Dennis opines:
I would think the preferred term would be "stiles". That would be consistent with architectural usage, where the vertical members of a door or sash are stiles, while the horizontals are rails. Well, yes, that’s correct about DOORS, but we’re talking about ladders. But I do agree about using stiles for the vertical parts of a ladder. And ladders have rungs. Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:26 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia ---In STMFC@..., wrote : The vertical members of a rigid ladder are called stringers or rails (US) or stiles (UK). Guys, it’s been driving me nuts to read about ladder styles. That’s not what they are called. The vertical parts are stringers, rails or stiles. The horizontal parts are called “rungs.” Schuyler ============ I would think the preferred term would be "stiles". That would be consistent with architectural usage, where the vertical members of a door or sash are stiles, while the horizontals are rails. Dennis Storzek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Tom Madden
And the list of things we take way too seriously continues to grow..... Tom Madden
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rwitt_2000
The 1912 CBD has the following definitions:
Ladder Round: A round cross bar or step of a ladder. Ladder Side Rails: The vertical side pieces to which the ladders rounds are attached. In the definition of a ladder it states that "The individual bars, whether of wood or iron, and whether round or square, are termed ladder rounds." Bob Witt
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Jeff Coleman
The FRA also refers ladders as stiles and treads made of wood, iron or steel. Jeff Coleman
On Apr 6, 2017 12:47 PM, "rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Dave Nelson
It’s still early in 2017 but I have no reservations about nominating Tom’s post as The Post of the Year.
Dave Nelson
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:57 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia
And the list of things we take way too seriously continues to grow..... Tom Madden
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Schuyler Larrabee
Yeah, sure, but there IS a difference between stiles and styles. That was my main point.
Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:57 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia And the list of things we take way too seriously continues to grow..... Tom Madden
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gary laakso
Perhaps, it needs a “don’t tread on me” sticker attached to it.
Gary Laakso south of Mike Brock
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 2:36 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia
It’s still early in 2017 but I have no reservations about nominating Tom’s post as The Post of the Year.
Dave Nelson
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
And the list of things we take way too seriously continues to grow..... Tom Madden
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John Barry
Extra STYLE points for using STILES? John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia Yeah, sure, but there IS a difference between stiles and styles. That was my main point.
Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:57 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia And the list of things we take way too seriously continues to grow..... Tom Madden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote : Yeah, sure, but there IS a difference between stiles and styles. That was my main point. Schuyler ================== Problem es, spellin' as gone all ta 'ell dees days. Dennis Storzek
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Dave Parker
For those who are finding this thread tedious, I would politely suggest that you avail yourself of that little button labeled DELETE. Your expression of disinterest does not really add anything to the conversation. Speaking only for myself, I do find the nomenclature interesting because it reflects how the Cycs evolved (or not) over time, as well as how the safety appliance standards were phased into them. Regarding Bob Witt's comments, those terms (ladder rounds and ladder side rails) date to at least the 1903 Cyc, and likely earlier. The same definition appears in the glossary section until at last 1922 (I am away from my 1931, but I would guess it's unchanged). Starting in 1912, there is a long Safety Appliances section that is also located within the glossary section. Here, the corresponding terms are ladder treads and stiles (no rungs). It also gives all the relevant details concerning tread spacing, distance from the car-end, etc. that were required by the 1911 SAA . Starting with the 1922, the SA section was moved into a separate section closer to the back of the book, and retains the tread-stile nomenclature. This is not the first time that I have found an internal discrepancy in the MCB-ARA nomenclature. They seemed reluctant to edit pre-existing text when they introduced new standards. Of course they lacked word-processors, but I wonder if it actually had more to do with the effort of introducing minor legislative changes at the annual MCB/ARA meetings. Dave Parker Riverside, CA
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Jared Harper
---In STMFC@..., <destorzek@...> wrote : ---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote : Yeah, sure, but there IS a difference between stiles and styles. That was my main point. Schuyler ================== Problem es, spellin' as gone all ta 'ell dees days.8>) Dennis Storzek
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