Don't be chicken
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Schuyler Larrabee
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-05-04-17/X1731.jpg
The erielack list has been bereft of freight car photos for several weeks, but this image is for the birds.
Schuyler
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Tony Thompson
Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Now there is a truly challenging modeling project for the "right" freight car guy. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Eric Hansmann
I friend of mine models the Ulster & Delaware in 1923. The U&D served several of the big Catskill hotels and received their provisions by rail. He needs more than one poultry car. I expect him to take on a Foghorn Leghorn accent after building a couple of them.
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
The erielack list has been bereft of freight car photos for several weeks, but this image is for the birds.
Now there is a truly challenging modeling project for the "right" freight car guy.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Aley, Jeff A
Many moons ago, there was a fellow who came to Martin Lofton’s California meetings (e.g. Pleasanton) and gave a clinic on Poultry Cars. Does anybody remember who that was (or is he an STMFC member)?
It was a very good clinic, and I still remember many of the things I learned.
Regards,
-Jeff
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 6:54 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken
Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Now there is a truly challenging modeling project for the "right" freight car guy.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Ed Hawkins
On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
The fellow you refer to is Al Hoffman, aka, "The Railroad Poultry Car Expert.” However, Al is not on the STMFC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Aley, Jeff A
Ed,
Thanks! Do you have contact info for him? Perhaps it’s time for him to educate a new audience in Cocoa Beach.
Regards,
-Jeff
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 7:17 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken
On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Jeff, The fellow you refer to is Al Hoffman, aka, "The Railroad Poultry Car Expert.” However, Al is not on the STMFC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Aley, Jeff A
For that matter, Ed, when are YOU coming to Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach? We’d love to have you!
-Jeff
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 8:08 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Don't be chicken
Ed,
Thanks! Do you have contact info for him? Perhaps it’s time for him to educate a new audience in Cocoa Beach.
Regards,
-Jeff
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STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Jeff, The fellow you refer to is Al Hoffman, aka, "The Railroad Poultry Car Expert.” However, Al is not on the STMFC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Schuyler, and Friends, The next photo in the series shows the attendant's compartment, if that is what it really was: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-05-04-17/X1732.jpg . I see a heater, a bag of feed, and presumably there was a water tank, possibly below the floor behind the sheathing, and some means of getting it to the birds. Did the attendant (or maybe "messenger") ride with the caboose with the crew? He certainly can't have been expected to travel in this space. Yours Aye,
Garth Groff
On 5/5/17 9:54 PM, Tony Thompson
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Bill Welch
Why a stove or heater if the attendant is not traveling in the car?
Bill Welch
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Garth, yes to are looking at the attendant’s living quarters. Poultry cars were often leased to an individual who traveled with his car. Note the name above the door, Harris. That tells you whose car it is. The cars typically traveled a route, pickup up or purchasing birds along the way. Kind of like an LCL car in reverse. The attendant lived in the middle with a cot and stove. He also had feed and supplies for the birds under his care. There was a walkway between the cages. He would feed, water, collect eggs and dispose of dead birds.
Doug Harding
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Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 3:50 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken
Schuyler, and Friends, The next photo in the series shows the attendant's compartment, if that is what it really was: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-05-04-17/X1732.jpg . I see a heater, a bag of feed, and presumably there was a water tank, possibly below the floor behind the sheathing, and some means of getting it to the birds. Did the attendant (or maybe "messenger") ride with the caboose with the crew? He certainly can't have been expected to travel in this space. Yours Aye,
Garth Groff
On 5/5/17 9:54 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Doug, All I can say is, "Yecch!" Yours Aye,
Garth Groff
On 5/6/17 7:31 AM, 'Douglas Harding'
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Bob Weston
The Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum website has a very interesting article on the history and use of the Live Poultry Transit Company. This article can be found at www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and-trains/.
Bob Weston
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Clark Propst
I remember the attendants being in some of Al’s photos. They wore clothes
with white pok-a-dots all over them. Do you think the train crew would let them
in their caboose? ; ))
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <sarahsan@...> wrote : Doug, All I can say is, "Yecch!" Yours Aye,
Garth Groff Where is Mike Rowe when you need him? Dennis Storzek
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Schuyler Larrabee
I'll second that opinion!
Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 11:10 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Don't be chicken For that matter, Ed, when are YOU coming to Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach? We'd love to have you! -Jeff From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 8:08 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Don't be chicken Ed, Thanks! Do you have contact info for him? Perhaps it's time for him to educate a new audience in Cocoa Beach. Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 7:17 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: Many moons ago, there was a fellow who came to Martin Lofton's California meetings (e.g. Pleasanton) and gave a clinic on Poultry Cars. Does anybody remember who that was (or is he an STMFC member)? Jeff, The fellow you refer to is Al Hoffman, aka, "The Railroad Poultry Car Expert." However, Al is not on the STMFC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Bob and List Members,
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Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below. http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off? Claus Schlund
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From: "oandle@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:27 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken The Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum website has a very interesting article on the history and use of the Live Poultry Transit Company. This article can be found at www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and http://www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and-trains/. Bob Weston
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Schuyler Larrabee
No. 1. Keeping the attendant alive in cold weather
No. 2. Avoiding getting to the destination with frozen birds. Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:40 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken Why a stove or heater if the attendant is not traveling in the car? Bill Welch
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frograbbit602
Yes it is the attendant's quarters. A stove, a cot to sleep on and a small sink normally on the left side of photo. Most cars had access to feed boxes or water tanks above on roof or below floor from these quarters. All my research on poultry cars says an attendant required to ride with the car to provide water and feed as poultry required. Not the best job in the world.
Lester Breuer
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ed_mines
Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars? Ed Mines
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Eric Hansmann
I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.
Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:12 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken
Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars?
Ed Mines
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