Kits are now for sale


Pierre Oliver
 


Bill Welch
 

Well done Pierre!

Bill Welch


Rob M.
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak


Pierre Oliver
 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak



Corey Fischer
 

Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak



Pierre Oliver
 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak




Corey Fischer
 

I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak




Pierre Oliver
 

Let me review options with the pattern creator

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak





Corey Fischer
 

Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak





Dave Parker
 

I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak






Corey Fischer
 

Here here Dave! 

 I feel that the original configuration would benefit pre depression and transition era modelers alike. I would love to own this kit, it looks gorgeous!

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak






Bill Welch
 

I have a photo of 40709 w/a reweigh date of January 1967 in very good condition w/what looks like fairly fresh paint and stenciling and a very wide left side door. It is stenciled "AB Brake." Also CP 40498 in 1969 with those bar code thingys. Cars operated in USA will need different trucks.

Bill welch


Pierre Oliver
 

Ask and you shall receive!

I've had a conversation with the pattern maker on this kit and we've established that we can indeed offer a "as built" variant set of parts for this kit.
A new side plug, a brace and a set of doors.
Not sure how long it will take to get this into production, but I'll try for as quick as possible.

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 10:04 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
Here here Dave! 

 I feel that the original configuration would benefit pre depression and transition era modelers alike. I would love to own this kit, it looks gorgeous!

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak







David Jobe, Sr.
 

Thanks for checking with Pierre about this car.  Given that it was originally built n 1923 it would be great to have an original version available for my 1926 focus.  Pierre, count me in for at least one or two should this come to fruition.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 4:56 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Kits are now for sale

 




I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

 

Dave Parker

Riverside, CA 

 

 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 


On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.


On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Pierre,

 

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

 

Corey


On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak

 

 

 

 





John Riddell
 

Below is a partial list of CPR 40' steel-frame auto cars extracted from the extensive roster list created by Ian Cranstone from ORER entries..



The 8th column is the door width.



The new Yarmouth kit represents cars in series 297500-297799 built in 1923 with 13-6 door openings.



Note that this number series were no longer in revenue service after April 1957.

In 1956 some of this series were renumbered to 40347-40435 for CPR company service.



The numerous series of CPR steel-frame auto cars had many variations included the door-opening width, side sill shape and ladder type.



Any surviving original arch bar trucks were replaced before 1939 when arch bar trucks were banned for interchange in North America.



John Riddell



295000-295084
XM
Boxcar
100
1/1946-4/1992
40.4
10.4
15.0*
3895
var.
/38-/42
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. x295100-295799 series?

295085-295099
"
"
"
7/1956-4/1992
"
"
"
"
var.
/38-/42
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. x295500-295799 series?

295100-295499
XM
Boxcar
400
1/1946-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
NSC
2-4/47
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

295200-295398
XA
Boxcar
300
7/1913-4/1930
36.0
8.5
10.0*
2598
CCF
/11
Even #'s. 7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. x195200-195398 /13-/16 rblt. with 5.0 dr., re#156002-156296 series /30s.

295201-295399
"
"
"
4/1913-4/1930
"
"
"
"
CCF
/13
Odd #'s. 7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. re#156002-156296 series /30s.

295400-295499
"
"
"
4/1913-4/1930
"
"
"
"
CCF
/13
7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. re#156002-156296 series /30s.

295500-295699
XA
Furniture Box
268
6/1916-1/1924
36.0
8.0
10.0*
2448
?
/16?


295700-295799
"
"
"
9/1916-1/1924
"
"
"
"
?
/16?


295500-295549
XM
Boxcar
50
7/1938-10/1980
40.4
10.5
15.0*
3820
CCF
8/38
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

295550-295649
XM
Boxcar
100
4/1941-4/1981
40.4
10.5
15.0*
3820
CCF
3/40
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

295650-295799
XM
Boxcar
150
1/1942-4/1981
40.4
10.5
15.0*
3820
NSC
1-2/42
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

295800-295919
XM
Boxcar
120
10/1947-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
NSC
5/48
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

295920-296199
XM
Boxcar
280
1/1952-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
CCF
10-11/51
Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc.

296000-296102
XM
Boxcar
260
7/1916-10/1949
40.6
9.6
10.0*
3302
?
/09-/12
Stl. underframe. 8.6 end dr., automobile/furniture svc. xflat /16-/17.

296103-296259
"
"
"
2/1918-4/1949
"
"
"
"
?
?
Stl. underframe. 8.6 end dr., automobile/furniture svc. xflat /16-/17.

296200-296269
XM
Boxcar
98
1/1952-4/1981
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc.

296270-296297
"
"
"
4/1963-10/1981
"
"
"
"
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc.

296298-296347
XM
Boxcar
49
4/1963-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
?
?
Stl. Auto svc.

296300-296599
XM
Boxcar
300
7/1936-1/1957
40.6
10.0
13.3*
3442
?
/22
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40010-40047?

296348-296499
XM
Boxcar
255
4/1964-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc.

296500-296610
"
"
"
10/1964-4/1992
"
"
"
"
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc.

296600-296699
XM
Boxcar
200
7/1936-4/1958
40.6
10.1
12.7*
3471
?
?
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40050-40235 series?

296700-296799
"
"
"
7/1935-4/1958
"
"
"
"
?
?
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40050-40235 series?

296639-296710
XM
Boxcar
72
10/1964-4/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc.

296800-296899
XM
Boxcar
100
7/1934-7/1956
40.6
10.0
12.0*
3442
?
/22-/24
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40237-40250?

296900-296999
XM
Boxcar
100
7/1934-4/1958
40.6
10.1
12.0*
3471
?
/22-/24
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40251-40346?

297000-297499
XM
Boxcar
500
10/1921-10/1957
40.6
10.0
13.3*
3442
?
/21-/22
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. 297000-297299 re# into 40347-40455 series.

297000-297199
XM
Boxcar
466
10/1964-4/1993
40.6
10.6
15.1*
3800
var.
?
Stl. x?

297200-297357
"
"
"
1/1966-4/1993
"
"
"
"
var.
?
Stl. x?

297358-297477
"
"
"
7/1966-4/1993
"
"
"
"
var.
?
Stl. x?

297300-297399
XM
Boxcar
85
7/1947-10/1956
40.6
10.6
12.0*
3615
?
?
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40456-40536?

297400-297448
XM
Boxcar
43
7/1952-10/1956
40.6
10.6
13.5*
3615
?
?
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40537-40579?

297478-297524
XM
Boxcar
50
10/1968-1/1983
40.6
10.6
15.1*
3895
var.
3/53
x?

297500-297799
XM
Boxcar
300
6/1923-4/1957
40.6
10.0
13.6*
3442
?
/23-/24
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re# into 40347-40455 series?

297700-297899
XM
Boxcar
177
10/1950-4/1957
40.6
10.0
13.6*
3442
?
/23-/24
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40580-40783?

297800-298099
XA
Boxcar
300
3/1924-1/1950
40.6
10.0
10.0*
3442
CP-A
/23-/24
Stl. frame. Automobile svc.

297900-298098
XM
Boxcar
100
10/1950-7/1957
40.6
10.0
13.6*
3645
?
/24
Stl. Automobile svc. x?, re#298900-298999.

298000-298136
XM
Boxcar
185
7/1969-1/1998
40.6
10.6
12.0*
3900
?
11/47
Stl. Nailable stl. flr. x?

298137-298185
"
"
"
7/1971-1/1998
"
"
"
"
?
?
Stl. Nailable stl. flr. x?

298100-298399
XM
Boxcar
300
7/1928-10/1949
40.6
10.0
12.0*
3679
CCF
5-6/28
Stl. Automobile svc.

298355-298399
XM
Boxcar
45
1/1957-1/1983
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3863
?
/28
Stl. x? /57.

298400-298599
XM
Boxcar
200
5/1929-7/1953
40.6
10.0
12.0*
3645
?
?
Stl. Central loading rail with 7 sliding brackets, automobile svc. some re#299400-299500 /33-/34.

298400-298599
XM
Boxcar
100
4/1958-1/1983
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3898
NSC
3-4/29
Stl. Central loading rail with 7 sliding brackets. x?.

298600-298799
XM
Boxcar
200
7/1937-10/1984
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3898
CCF
6-10/37
Stl. Central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets.

298800-298899
XM
Boxcar
200
10/1955-1/1983
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3863
?
/28
Stl. Automobile svc. x299800-299999 series /55-/57.

298900-298999
"
Boxcar
"
1/1956-1/1983
"
"
"
"
?
/28
Stl. Automobile svc. x299800-299999 series /55-/57.

299000-299099
XM
Boxcar
100
7/1934-4/1957
40.6
10.1
12.0*
3471
?
/21-/22
Stl. frame. Automobile svc. x?, re#40754-40848?

299400-299599
XM
Boxcar
100
7/1934-1/1983
40.6
10.6
15.1*
3898
NSC
3-4/29
Stl. x298400-298599 series /33-/34.

299600-299799
XM
Boxcar
200
4/1950-4/1958
40.6
10.6
13.0*
3615
?
/23
Stl. frame. Central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, automobile svc. re#40849-41046.

299800-299999
XM
Boxcar
200
4/1950-1/1957
40.6
10.0
13.6*
3645
?
?
Stl. re#298800-299999.

299900-299922
XM
Boxcar
23
10/1966-10/1992
40.6
10.6
15.0*
3895
?
?
Stl. 9'2" end drs.

299932-299948
XM
Boxcar
9
1/1967-7/1980
40.6
10.0
15.0*
3680
?
?


299949
XM
Boxcar
1
7/1965-4/1972
40.6
10.0
13.6*
3645
?
?
Stl. Nailable steel flr.

299950-299954
XM
Boxcar
5
10/1966-4/1970
40.6
10.6
15.0
3895
?
?
x?

299972-299989
XM
Boxcar
18
4/1965-1/1973
40.6
10.0
13.6
3645
?
/28
Stl. Nailable steel flr. x? /61-/65.

299990-299999
"
"
"
7/1961-4/1976
"
"
"
"
?
/28
Stl. Nailable steel flr. x? /61-/65.




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Kemal Mumcu
 

I can think of a photo of this series car with the ten foot "original" doors taken at Rossland, BC in 1948. Not sure exactly how long 10' door cars lasted but they were certainly around in the transition era. I would be interested in one. I will build one of the current kits first of course. ;)

Colin​


Corey Fischer
 

Pierre,

 That is amazing news! I will surely be buying this! I am so excited!

Corey

On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:30 AM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Ask and you shall receive!

I've had a conversation with the pattern maker on this kit and we've established that we can indeed offer a "as built" variant set of parts for this kit.
A new side plug, a brace and a set of doors.
Not sure how long it will take to get this into production, but I'll try for as quick as possible.

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 10:04 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Here here Dave! 

 I feel that the original configuration would benefit pre depression and transition era modelers alike. I would love to own this kit, it looks gorgeous!

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak







Dave Parker
 

John:
The new Yarmouth kit represents cars in series 297500-297799 built in 1923 with 13-6 door openings.
With all due respect to you and to Ian, this statement is not at all consistent with the evidence in the relevant ORERs.
In 1926, the CP owned a total of 1731 class XA cars across just six series, four of which were 41 ft cars of ~40 tons capacity.  These included two virtually identical "sister" classes, 297500-297799 and 297800-298099, 300 cars each, the only difference being a small difference in CAPY.  None of the XAs had doors wider than 10-0 at this time, consistent with the builder's photo of 297500 on the YMW webpage.
Apart from a very minor adjustment in CAPY, these two series remain unchanged through 1930, with a total of 599 cars.
It is not until the 1935 ORER that we see a reduction in the original series (down to 500 cars), and the appearance of a dimensionally identical series with 12-0 doors:  100 cars n 296800-296899.
In 1940, the original series are down to 181 cars total, and we first see the first appearance of what are obviously the same cars with 13-3 doors:  299 cars in 296300-296599.  Car 296390, which is the model shown on the YMV site, is from this group of cars.

The distribution of cars across the three door widths is largely the same in 1945, but I have no idea what happened thereafter.
This was the basis of my earlier statement that the 600 relevant cars with 10-0 doors persisted for a better part of a decade before rebuilding with wider doors began.
Dave ParkerRiverside, CA

On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 9:54 AM, "'John Riddell' riddellj@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


  Below is a partial list of CPR 40' steel-frame auto cars extracted from the extensive roster list created by Ian Cranstone from ORER entries.. The 8th column is the door width. The new Yarmouth kit represents cars in series 297500-297799 built in 1923 with 13-6 door openings. Note that this number series were no longer in revenue service after April 1957.In 1956 some of this series were renumbered to 40347-40435 for CPR company service.  The numerous series of CPR steel-frame auto cars had many variations included the door-opening width, side sill shape and ladder type. Any surviving original arch bar trucks were replaced before 1939 when arch bar trucks were banned for interchange in North America.  John Riddell 
| 295000-295084 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 1/1946-4/1992 | 40.4 | 10.4 | 15.0* | 3895 | var. | /38-/42 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. x295100-295799 series? |
| 295085-295099 | " | " | " | 7/1956-4/1992 | " | " | " | " | var. | /38-/42 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. x295500-295799 series? |
| 295100-295499 | XM | Boxcar | 400 | 1/1946-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | NSC | 2-4/47 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 295200-295398 | XA | Boxcar | 300 | 7/1913-4/1930 | 36.0 | 8.5 | 10.0* | 2598 | CCF | /11 | Even #'s. 7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. x195200-195398 /13-/16 rblt. with 5.0 dr., re#156002-156296 series /30s. |
| 295201-295399 | " | " | " | 4/1913-4/1930 | " | " | " | " | CCF | /13 | Odd #'s. 7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. re#156002-156296 series /30s. |
| 295400-295499 | " | " | " | 4/1913-4/1930 | " | " | " | " | CCF | /13 | 7'6" end dr., automobile/machinery. re#156002-156296 series /30s. |
| 295500-295699 | XA | Furniture Box | 268 | 6/1916-1/1924 | 36.0 | 8.0 | 10.0* | 2448 | ? | /16? |   |
| 295700-295799 | " | " | " | 9/1916-1/1924 | " | " | " | " | ? | /16? |   |
| 295500-295549 | XM | Boxcar | 50 | 7/1938-10/1980 | 40.4 | 10.5 | 15.0* | 3820 | CCF | 8/38 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 295550-295649 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 4/1941-4/1981 | 40.4 | 10.5 | 15.0* | 3820 | CCF | 3/40 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 295650-295799 | XM | Boxcar | 150 | 1/1942-4/1981 | 40.4 | 10.5 | 15.0* | 3820 | NSC | 1-2/42 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 295800-295919 | XM | Boxcar | 120 | 10/1947-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | NSC | 5/48 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 295920-296199 | XM | Boxcar | 280 | 1/1952-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | CCF | 10-11/51 | Stl. 9'2" end drs., central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, auto svc. |
| 296000-296102 | XM | Boxcar | 260 | 7/1916-10/1949 | 40.6 | 9.6 | 10.0* | 3302 | ? | /09-/12 | Stl. underframe. 8.6 end dr., automobile/furniture svc. xflat /16-/17. |
| 296103-296259 | " | " | " | 2/1918-4/1949 | " | " | " | " | ? | ? | Stl. underframe. 8.6 end dr., automobile/furniture svc. xflat /16-/17. |
| 296200-296269 | XM | Boxcar | 98 | 1/1952-4/1981 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. |
| 296270-296297 | " | " | " | 4/1963-10/1981 | " | " | " | " | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. |
| 296298-296347 | XM | Boxcar | 49 | 4/1963-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | ? | ? | Stl. Auto svc. |
| 296300-296599 | XM | Boxcar | 300 | 7/1936-1/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.3* | 3442 | ? | /22 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40010-40047? |
| 296348-296499 | XM | Boxcar | 255 | 4/1964-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. |
| 296500-296610 | " | " | " | 10/1964-4/1992 | " | " | " | " | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. |
| 296600-296699 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 7/1936-4/1958 | 40.6 | 10.1 | 12.7* | 3471 | ? | ? | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40050-40235 series? |
| 296700-296799 | " | " | " | 7/1935-4/1958 | " | " | " | " | ? | ? | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40050-40235 series? |
| 296639-296710 | XM | Boxcar | 72 | 10/1964-4/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs., auto svc. |
| 296800-296899 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 7/1934-7/1956 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 12.0* | 3442 | ? | /22-/24 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40237-40250? |
| 296900-296999 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 7/1934-4/1958 | 40.6 | 10.1 | 12.0* | 3471 | ? | /22-/24 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40251-40346? |
| 297000-297499 | XM | Boxcar | 500 | 10/1921-10/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.3* | 3442 | ? | /21-/22 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. 297000-297299 re# into 40347-40455 series. |
| 297000-297199 | XM | Boxcar | 466 | 10/1964-4/1993 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.1* | 3800 | var. | ? | Stl. x? |
| 297200-297357 | " | " | " | 1/1966-4/1993 | " | " | " | " | var. | ? | Stl. x? |
| 297358-297477 | " | " | " | 7/1966-4/1993 | " | " | " | " | var. | ? | Stl. x? |
| 297300-297399 | XM | Boxcar | 85 | 7/1947-10/1956 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 12.0* | 3615 | ? | ? | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40456-40536? |
| 297400-297448 | XM | Boxcar | 43 | 7/1952-10/1956 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 13.5* | 3615 | ? | ? | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40537-40579? |
| 297478-297524 | XM | Boxcar | 50 | 10/1968-1/1983 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.1* | 3895 | var. | 3/53 | x? |
| 297500-297799 | XM | Boxcar | 300 | 6/1923-4/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6* | 3442 | ? | /23-/24 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re# into 40347-40455 series? |
| 297700-297899 | XM | Boxcar | 177 | 10/1950-4/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6* | 3442 | ? | /23-/24 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. re#40580-40783? |
| 297800-298099 | XA | Boxcar | 300 | 3/1924-1/1950 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 10.0* | 3442 | CP-A | /23-/24 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. |
| 297900-298098 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 10/1950-7/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6* | 3645 | ? | /24 | Stl. Automobile svc. x?, re#298900-298999. |
| 298000-298136 | XM | Boxcar | 185 | 7/1969-1/1998 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 12.0* | 3900 | ? | 11/47 | Stl. Nailable stl. flr. x? |
| 298137-298185 | " | " | " | 7/1971-1/1998 | " | " | " | " | ? | ? | Stl. Nailable stl. flr. x? |
| 298100-298399 | XM | Boxcar | 300 | 7/1928-10/1949 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 12.0* | 3679 | CCF | 5-6/28 | Stl. Automobile svc. |
| 298355-298399 | XM | Boxcar | 45 | 1/1957-1/1983 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3863 | ? | /28 | Stl. x? /57. |
| 298400-298599 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 5/1929-7/1953 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 12.0* | 3645 | ? | ? | Stl. Central loading rail with 7 sliding brackets, automobile svc. some re#299400-299500 /33-/34. |
| 298400-298599 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 4/1958-1/1983 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3898 | NSC | 3-4/29 | Stl. Central loading rail with 7 sliding brackets. x?. |
| 298600-298799 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 7/1937-10/1984 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3898 | CCF | 6-10/37 | Stl. Central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets. |
| 298800-298899 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 10/1955-1/1983 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3863 | ? | /28 | Stl. Automobile svc. x299800-299999 series /55-/57. |
| 298900-298999 | " | Boxcar | " | 1/1956-1/1983 | " | " | " | " | ? | /28 | Stl. Automobile svc. x299800-299999 series /55-/57. |
| 299000-299099 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 7/1934-4/1957 | 40.6 | 10.1 | 12.0* | 3471 | ? | /21-/22 | Stl. frame. Automobile svc. x?, re#40754-40848? |
| 299400-299599 | XM | Boxcar | 100 | 7/1934-1/1983 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.1* | 3898 | NSC | 3-4/29 | Stl. x298400-298599 series /33-/34. |
| 299600-299799 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 4/1950-4/1958 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 13.0* | 3615 | ? | /23 | Stl. frame. Central loading rail with 4 sliding brackets, automobile svc. re#40849-41046. |
| 299800-299999 | XM | Boxcar | 200 | 4/1950-1/1957 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6* | 3645 | ? | ? | Stl. re#298800-299999. |
| 299900-299922 | XM | Boxcar | 23 | 10/1966-10/1992 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0* | 3895 | ? | ? | Stl. 9'2" end drs. |
| 299932-299948 | XM | Boxcar | 9 | 1/1967-7/1980 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 15.0* | 3680 | ? | ? |   |
| 299949 | XM | Boxcar | 1 | 7/1965-4/1972 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6* | 3645 | ? | ? | Stl. Nailable steel flr. |
| 299950-299954 | XM | Boxcar | 5 | 10/1966-4/1970 | 40.6 | 10.6 | 15.0 | 3895 | ? | ? | x? |
| 299972-299989 | XM | Boxcar | 18 | 4/1965-1/1973 | 40.6 | 10.0 | 13.6 | 3645 | ? | /28 | Stl. Nailable steel flr. x? /61-/65. |
| 299990-299999 | " | " | " | 7/1961-4/1976 | " | " | " | " | ? | /28 | Stl. Nailable steel flr. x? /61-/65. |

 
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Dave Parker
 

Pierre, merci beaucoup.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:58 PM, "Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Ask and you shall receive!

I've had a conversation with the pattern maker on this kit and we've established that we can indeed offer a "as built" variant set of parts for this kit.
A new side plug, a brace and a set of doors.
Not sure how long it will take to get this into production, but I'll try for as quick as possible.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 10:04 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
Here here Dave! 

 I feel that the original configuration would benefit pre depression and transition era modelers alike. I would love to own this kit, it looks gorgeous!

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak









John Riddell
 

Dave,
 
Are are saying the evidence of the extensive ORER entries of many years is not reliable ? Is it inaccurate ?
 
John R