Nelson;

B-end photos are indeed rare:

Series 85400-86399 (1000 cars), car 86243 had a Miner brake
Segregated service cars in series 600000-601999 (2000 cars), car 600635 had a Universal with dished pressed-steel wheel

7-panel Superior doors,, rectangular grid r/b, nice Pressed Steel Car Co logo to left of door, plus this is one class that DID have a hyphen between X and 43B (as in X-43B; B is NOT smaller than other letters/numbers), as painted.


Elden Gatwood (working on the book as we speak)

Not only have freight cars been equipped with power brakes, but they still are. They replaced to old upright brake wheels around 1930 or so. Power brakes are the ones with the geared housing on the end of the car, which provided more torque than the old upright brake wheels.

It’s a shame that NMRA, MR, RMC, or some ‘authoritative’ source can’t come up with a glossary of standard railroad terminology for authors and publishers to follow. The RPM leadership has striven mightily to educate the great unwashed in vain. Even a prolific author of Kalmbach books still uses stirrup step instead of sill step, roof walk instead of running board, ad nauseum. Until such a glossary becomes universal, modelers will continue to misspeak and misunderstand.

Nelson Moyer

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Did freight cars have "power" hand brakes?
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA

I agree totally, Tony, but many authors and publishers ignore industry vocabulary. I'm not advocating a 'different' set of terms, just a standard set based on railroad usage that publishers would be willing to adopt universally. As long as hobby publications perpetuate non-standard usage, hobbyists will continue to use the terms they read in the model press whether they are accurate or not. Access to the CYCs and finding the correct terms takes a bit of effort, so I'm suggesting that a person or group compile the list, make it widely available, and encourage authors and publishers to use the list.

Nelson Moyer

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Nelson Moyer wrote:




It's a shame that NMRA, MR, RMC, or some 'authoritative' source can't come up with a glossary of standard railroad terminology for authors and publishers to follow. The RPM leadership has striven mightily to educate the great unwashed in vain. Even a prolific author of Kalmbach books still uses stirrup step instead of sill step, roof walk instead of running board, ad nauseum. Until such a glossary becomes universal, modelers will continue to misspeak and misunderstand.

With all due respect, Nelson, I think you are missing the entire point. The Cycs from the beginning have offered a standard RAILROAD INDUSTRY standard vocabulary. Why on earth should NMRA or any magazine offer a "different" set of railroad terms? The problem was solved well over a hundred years ago, and the solution can be found on the shelves of any good library.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Publishers of books on railroad history

Nelson,

Sounds to me like you just nominated yourself. :-!

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff

Sorry, guys, but I don't have any clout with authors, editors, or the model press. Compiling is the easy part. Selling the concept to all of the publishers is entirely another matter. Besides, most modelers simply don't care about proper terminology. The just use the terms they read in MR, etc.

Nelson Moyer

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Garth:

I second your motion, now its official Nelson is the man to do it.

Paul C. Koehler

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Nelson,

Sounds to me like you just nominated yourself. :-!

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff
On 6/30/17 5:45 PM, Nelson Moyer npmoyer@...<mailto:npmoyer@...> [STMFC] wrote (in part):


I agree totally, Tony, but many authors and publishers ignore industry vocabulary . . . so I'm suggesting that a person or group compile the list, make it widely available, and encourage authors and publishers to use the list.

Nelson Moyer

Tony wrote, " The problem was solved well over a hundred years ago, and the solution can be found on the shelves of any good library."