Plasterboard Loads
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thecitrusbelt@...
Can anyone point me to a photo source that has/might have images of plasterboard loads on flat cars, especially pre-1960?
I've tried Railpictures.net and I'm struggling through RRpicturearchives.net (really slow loading). I probably should look at the SP flat car book when I can find a reference copy.
Any other suggestions?
Beyond that, is anyone aware of a modeling article on plasterboard loads?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Bob and Bill,
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WP 50' flats from series 2401-2700 were converted with bulkheads of at least two different styles for wallboard service in 1951-53. The cars were renumbered 2851-2925. They were judged too short and were reassigned to pipe service. I can't point you to a photo of them loaded with wallboard, but Jim Eager's WESTERN PACIFIC COLOR GUIDE TO FREIGHT AND PASSENGER EQUIPMENT has a photo of one of each type bulkhead. Chad Boas offered a kit for the WP 2400 series flatcar without the bulkheads: http://resincarworks.com/boas_kitlist_201506.pdf Here is the WP diagram: http://www.wplives.com/diagrams/freight/1958/FC2851-2925.php . These were succeeded by WP 2951-2980 in 1955: http://www.wplives.com/diagrams/freight/1958/FC2951-2980.php Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Here are a couple. Contrary to your request, I included two without loads. 1940s N&W car drawings (no load) https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/selectdocs.php?index=rs&id=636 Jan. 1958 N&W (no load) https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2477.jpeg Nov. 1963 ATSF http://www.kshs.org/km/items/view/50644 1964? SP http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=59857. (scroll down) Regards, Charley Hepperle From: "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 9:50 AM Subject: [STMFC] Plasterboard Loads Can anyone point me to a photo source that has/might have
images of plasterboard loads on flat cars, especially pre-1960? I've tried Railpictures.net and I'm struggling through RRpicturearchives.net
(really slow loading). I probably should look at the SP flat car book when I
can find a reference copy. Any other suggestions? Beyond that, is anyone aware of a modeling article on
plasterboard loads? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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WILLIAM PARDIE
I believe that the Southern Pacific Historicsl Society magazine "Trainline" had an article on creating plaster board loads along with pbotos. This wss three or four years ago Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> Date: 8/18/17 6:50 AM (GMT-10:00) To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Plasterboard Loads
Can anyone point me to a photo source that has/might have images of plasterboard loads on flat cars, especially pre-1960?
I've tried Railpictures.net and I'm struggling through RRpicturearchives.net (really slow loading). I probably should look at the SP flat car book when I can find a reference copy.
Any other suggestions?
Beyond that, is anyone aware of a modeling article on plasterboard loads?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Bill Welch
The SP H&TS website has something that can be printed out in color but it may be too modern for us. This is a topic I have only recently developed an interest in and have rounded up three more kits in addition the the GM&O car I am building—SP, B&O, and ATSF.
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Craig Wilson
I have a couple of photos that may be useful to you but because of the way they were shared with me, I can't really post them here. Contact me off list: agecompanyphotog@...
For general discussion: from my research it seems that "plasterboard" / "wallboard" increased in popularity as a building material in the 1950's and was often shipped in boxcars due to risk of damage when exposed to the elements. Using flatcars required that the material be wrapped to protect it. I stumbled across a promotional film from the Santa Fe shot in the 1950's and showing cars at a hump yard. One of these cars is a bulkhead flatcar with what looks like a plasterboard load. It looks to be wrapped with canvas tarps and I have another photo which shows what looks to be a type of heavy craft paper wrapping. The Intermountain B&O car is lettered "Return to Shoals, Indiana" where a large gypsum deposit was discovered in the 1950's. Both USG (brand name "sheetrock" ) and National Gypsum ("Gold Bond" building products) built large facilities there on a long spur that connected to the B&O. The B&O bulkhead flatcars were converted at this time. Both companies had operations scattered in other parts of the country too. The colorful "plastic" wrappers appear to have come into use in the mid 1960's. In my collection is a photo of one of the B&O cars at a Nat'l Gypsum plant in Portsmouth NH. It is dated 1964 and carries a load with the "Gold Bond" wrapper. (a red-orange color). I also have a photo dated 1966 of an ATSF bulkhead car whose load has the USG wrapper (red). For models of the 1950's cars, I printed out a sheet of paper that is a dusty green color (think Army surplus tarps). The 1960's cars have USG and Gold Bond wrappers that I created on my computer. I took them to a local office supply store (Staples) and had them printed on a heavier, semi-glossy paper. The cost was minimal. BTW there are bits of white material where the metal straps go over the edges of the wrappers. Those are pieces of scrap wallboard/plasterboard. Given what I discovered about the history of the B&O cars and the gypsum industry at Shoals, IN I just had to see if I could create an authentic looking load for the car. Craig Wilson |
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