URTX and MILW, M&StL, SOO, C GW leased reefers: A Pool Arrangement?


Ray Breyer
 

>>Dennis Storzek wrote:


>>I don't think any of the granger roads originated enough reefer loads to really worry about it....


ORIGINATING LOADS, 1925
ROAD    CITRUS    FRESH FRUIT    POTATOES    FRESH VEG
C&NW        29                 1948                 8744                  4327
CMO             4                  418                   2513                   475
CGW           12                 168                    139                     288
MILW            66               1422                   2794                  3834
GB&W          0                    41                    2310                   512
CB&Q          68                2813                  4391                  1194
C&A              7                 1710                    35                       88
RI                  51                1974                   1878                 1406
C&EI             0                  1184                    176                   365
CI&L              0                  225                      12                     280
CCC&StL    58                  716                    125                    901
IC                160               31911                  1277                 7255
SOO             26                 923                     9032                  740      


More than likely, anyone who thinks that Grangers didn't produce reefer loads is modeling the wrong year.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL                                   


Douglas Harding
 

The MSTL served a number of canneries, ie Marshall Canning of Western Grocer. Most were sweet corn canners, but pumpkin, peas, green beans, and like were also canned. A short season for processing, ie late July through Sept, but a skeleton staff kept on hand year round to label and ship cans as orders came in. Yes canned corn was kept on site in a warehouse ready to ship as needed. The cans of corn were stored unlabeled, when an order arrived usually the labels also arrived from the buyer. Cans were then unboxed, labeled, reboxed in new boxes and shipped. Reefers would have been used during winter months. The MSTL purchased 50’ insulated boxcars in the late 50’s for this traffic. But prior to that purchase, reefers could/would be used.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Dave Nelson
 

OH BOY!! I get to say it (again): All those tens of thousands of IC reefers were hauling bananas to Chicago. Growing up on the north side there were bananas in the house all eyar long.



Dave Nelson



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Dennis Storzek wrote:


I don't think any of the granger roads originated enough reefer loads to really worry about it....




ORIGINATING LOADS, 1925

ROAD CITRUS FRESH FRUIT POTATOES FRESH VEG
C&NW 29 1948 8744 4327
CMO 4 418 2513 475
CGW 12 168 139 288
MILW 66 1422 2794 3834
GB&W 0 41 2310 512
CB&Q 68 2813 4391 1194
C&A 7 1710 35 88
RI &n! bsp; 51 1974 1878 1406
C&EI 0 1184 176 365
CI&L 0 225 12 280
CCC&StL 58 716 125 901
IC 160 31911 1277 7255
SOO 26 923 9032 740





More than likely, anyone who thinks that Grangers didn't produce reefer loads is modeling the wrong year.



Ray Breyer

Elgin, IL


Ray Breyer
 

>>OH BOY!!  I get to say it (again): All those tens of thousands of IC reefers were hauling bananas to Chicago. 
>>Growing up on the north side there were bananas in the house all eyar long.
>>Dave Nelson


The stats I cited are from 1925 Dave, not 1955: there was a far larger mix of regional produce variation back in the good old days of railroading. That's why the IC had 4500 reefers, and also1800 ventilated boxcars. That's also why you see pre-Depression era photos of IC reefers in Ft. Dodge, LaSalle, and Dodgeville.
 
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL








William Hirt
 

Doug,

This matches my experience. Though after the time of this list, I worked at the Del Monte cannery in De Kalb IL one summer in the 1970s. We canned peas and lima beans first starting mid-late June and then transitioned to corn and cream corn. If I recall correctly, there were eight full time non-management employees at the cannery as they shipped year 'round via the C&NW and truck. They used a mix of students and migrant workers to staff the cannery during packing time. Canning went on 16-18 hours a day, sometimes longer depending on the day's harvest. The filled cans were stored unlabeled after going through the retort and then labeled when an order came in. The bigger Del Monte cannery was 15 miles west in Rochelle.

Bill Hirt


On 9/2/2017 7:46 PM, 'Doug Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC] wrote:

The MSTL served a number of canneries, ie Marshall Canning of Western Grocer. Most were sweet corn canners, but pumpkin, peas, green beans, and like were also canned. A short season for processing, ie late July through Sept, but a skeleton staff kept on hand year round to label and ship cans as orders came in. Yes canned corn was kept on site in a warehouse ready to ship as needed. The cans of corn were stored unlabeled, when an order arrived usually the labels also arrived from the buyer. Cans were then unboxed, labeled, reboxed in new boxes and shipped. Reefers would have been used during winter months. The MSTL purchased 50� insulated boxcars in the late 50�s for this traffic. But prior to that purchase, reefers could/would be used.

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Doug� Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

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