CMTX 465 (Tank Car)


thecitrusbelt@...
 

Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:

 

http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg

 

Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Bruce Smith
 

Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale?  I'm inclined to think the latter.


Regards

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
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Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
 


Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:

 

http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg

 

Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




Bill Vaughn
 

Yes weigh in motion scale.

Bill Vaughn


On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:21 PM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale?  I'm inclined to think the latter.

Regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:41 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
 


Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
 
 
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA





Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Any thoughts on who built this tank car? I’m reasonably certain it is not an AC&F product.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On Oct 4, 2017, at 6:41 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


John Hile
 

I'd say Standard Tank Car Co. is the builder.


David
 

That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames.

David Thompson


Tim O'Connor
 


I thought it was STC at first as well. But sure enough an STC 1915 frame is very
different than the 1918 frame, while the later PTC frames look more like the earlier
STC frame. Weird!

As for the date, can those spot/flood lights on the scale house help pin down the
decade at least?

Tim O'Connor


That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames.
David Thompson


http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg


Jack Mullen
 

Tim O'Connor asked:
As for the date, can those spot/flood lights on the scale house help pin down the
decade at least?
Well, at least they prove that those are Electric Era freight cars. <G>
The floods do seem very similar to ones I've seen in photos from the '40s-'50s, but that's weak evidence.

Looking at the car itself, it certainly has Andrews (or similar) trucks, and though the photo isn't quite clear enough, I think the sideframes are T-section or L-section. If so, the photo predates 1957.

I think the scale installation itself may provide the best timeframe. I don't know enough to be really confident, but I believe load-cell weigh-in-motion track scales came into use sometime around 1950. The facility is in very good condition, but still shows some wear and weathering, so it's not quite new.   I think this scene is in a hump yard that was upgraded or built in the wave of postwar modernization, and I'd say it's early to mid '50s. 

Jack Mullen




---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote :


I thought it was STC at first as well. But sure enough an STC 1915 frame is very
different than the 1918 frame, while the later PTC frames look more like the earlier
STC frame. Weird!

As for the date, can those spot/flood lights on the scale house help pin down the
decade at least?

Tim O'Connor


That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames.
David Thompson


http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg