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thecitrusbelt@...
Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale? I'm inclined to think the latter.
Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:41 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car) Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Bill Vaughn
Yes weigh in motion scale. Bill Vaughn On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:21 PM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote: Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale? I'm inclined to think the latter.
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Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:41 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car) Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet,
CA
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends, Any thoughts on who built this tank car? I’m reasonably certain it is not an AC&F product. Yours Aye, Garth Groff On Oct 4, 2017, at 6:41 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder: Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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John Hile
I'd say Standard Tank Car Co. is the builder.
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David
That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames.
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I thought it was STC at first as well. But sure enough an STC 1915 frame is very different than the 1918 frame, while the later PTC frames look more like the earlier STC frame. Weird! As for the date, can those spot/flood lights on the scale house help pin down the decade at least? Tim O'Connor That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames. http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg |
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Jack Mullen
Tim O'Connor asked:
Well, at least they prove that those are Electric Era freight cars. <G> The floods do seem very similar to ones I've seen in photos from the '40s-'50s, but that's weak evidence. Looking at the car itself, it certainly has Andrews (or similar) trucks, and though the photo isn't quite clear enough, I think the sideframes are T-section or L-section. If so, the photo predates 1957. I think the scale installation itself may provide the best timeframe. I don't know enough to be really confident, but I believe load-cell weigh-in-motion track scales came into use sometime around 1950. The facility is in very good condition, but still shows some wear and weathering, so it's not quite new. I think this scene is in a hump yard that was upgraded or built in the wave of postwar modernization, and I'd say it's early to mid '50s. Jack Mullen ---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote : I thought it was STC at first as well. But sure enough an STC 1915 frame is very different than the 1918 frame, while the later PTC frames look more like the earlier STC frame. Weird! As for the date, can those spot/flood lights on the scale house help pin down the decade at least? Tim O'Connor That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames. |
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