NKP 4321: Uncommon Or Not?
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thecitrusbelt@...
This photo, from Along the Right of Way blog, shows a forty-foot single door boxcar with end doors:
http://thecourier.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834ca83d669e2019b0395de91970c-pi
Was this an uncommon design?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Along the Right of Way blog: http://thecourier.typepad.com/alongtherightofway/
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Bob, 40' end-door auto cars were not all that common, though certainly
not rare. I'm not an NKP maven, but I would suggest from the side
sill treatment and the fishbelly underframe that this car is a
rebuilt single-sheathed car. Perhaps someone else can confirm
this. Look at the car number though: 4321! Yours Aye,
Garth Groff On 12/16/17 9:14 PM,
thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
I am pretty sure Sunshine did a model of the NKP car. Also notice the car to it’s right is an SP GS gondola.
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On Sunday, December 17, 2017, 9:24 am, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
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al_brown03
Sunshine kit #64.8. From Sunshine PDS #64A: NKP 4300-4399 were rebuilt from double-sheathed boxcars in 1947-48 as NKP 25000-25099; the end door was to facilitate loading racks of auto parts. They were renumbered NKP 4300-4399 in 1949 on the occasion of the W&LE lease (I think because W&LE had cars in the 25000 series). Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. |
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Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
Yes I have just found the one I have built.
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Paul Doggett UK 🇬🇧 On 17 Dec 2017, at 13:33, abrown@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Ray Breyer
It's a rebuild double sheathed car actually; the NKP only ever owned 1,200 single sheathed cars (1,000 Fowlers and 200 war emergency cars). Auto boxcars with end doors aren't rare. Ones with single side doors are. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
On Sunday, December 17, 2017, 3:24:41 AM CST, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
Bob, 40' end-door auto cars were not all that common, though certainly
not rare. I'm not an NKP maven, but I would suggest from the side
sill treatment and the fishbelly underframe that this car is a
rebuilt single-sheathed car. Perhaps someone else can confirm
this. Look at the car number though: 4321! Yours Aye,
Garth Groff On 12/16/17 9:14 PM,
thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:
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rwitt_2000
Paul Doggett wrote "Also notice the car to it’s right is an SP GS gondola".
You can tell from the side sill and sill step that it's a Southern Pacific GS? How about the Soo Line? Bob Witt |
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Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
Fair comment.
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On Sunday, December 17, 2017, 5:10 pm, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] wrote:
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rwitt_2000
I found another image on Fallen Flags site which shows the underframe well, but not the ends.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp04303lba.jpg Bob Witt |
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Tony Thompson
Lots of people, including SP, bought the Enterprise GS gondola design.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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destorzek@...
---In STMFC@..., <rwitt_2000@...> wrote : Paul Doggett wrote "Also notice the car to it’s right is an SP GS gondola". You can tell from the side sill and sill step that it's a Southern Pacific GS? How about the Soo Line? Bob Witt ==================== Yeah, actually, you can. Not Soo Line. Anyway, the top serif of the U in Southern just shows in the image. Dennis Storzek |
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exceedingly uncommon... first time I've ever seen one on a forty foot single door box car. Tim O'Connor This photo, from Along the Right of Way blog, shows a forty-foot single door boxcar with end doors: |
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