Has Anyone Assembled the Laser Kit Pickle Car?


Richard Townsend
 

David Leider's Pickle book has a photo of an open-sided Heinz pickle car. The implication in the book is that Heinz did not have any open-sided cars until 1952. So it would appear likely that the open-sided car in the 1923 photo is not a Heinz car.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Here's a 1923 image of the School Street yard of the B&O Allegheny BBranch. Click on the image for easier review and to zoom in on the freight cars.

The HJ Heinz plant is less than a mile to the right and served by this branch. Four of five pickle tank cars are the Heinz coffin type cars while one is open. Just beyond the Heinz is a Lutz & Schramm Pickles & Preserves operation...
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
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Which means the open car could have been for Lutz, not Heinz. I would actually think that was more likely; you'll note the Heinz car h ave hanging signs attached to a handrail like affair along the centerline of the roof, even though there is plenty of room on the slab sides of the cars, where they chose to simply advertise "pickles." In comparison, the open vat car is all but unmarked, which leads me to think it is NOT a Heinz car.

Dennis Storzek


Eric Hansmann
 

---In STMFC@..., Dennis Storzek wrote :

Which means the open car could have been for Lutz, not Heinz. I would actually think that was more likely; you'll note the Heinz car have hanging signs attached to a handrail like affair along the centerline of the roof, even though there is plenty of room on the slab sides of the cars, where they chose to simply advertise "pickles." In comparison, the open vat car is all but unmarked, which leads me to think it is NOT a Heinz car.

 

 

I am thinking along similar lines for this, Dennis. Until recently, I did not know of another Pittsburgh pickle operation. As per a 1922 B&O document, the Lutz & Schramm spur had an eight car loading/unloading capacity.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <eric@...> wrote :

Here's a 1923 image of the School Street yard of the B&O Allegheny BBranch. Click on the image for easier review and to zoom in on the freight cars.

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.231799.CP


The HJ Heinz plant is less than a mile to the right and served by this branch. Four of five pickle tank cars are the Heinz coffin type cars while one is open. Just beyond the Heinz is a Lutz & Schramm Pickles & Preserves operation...

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

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Which means the open car could have been for Lutz, not Heinz. I would actually think that was more likely; you'll note the Heinz car have hanging signs attached to a handrail like affair along the centerline of the roof, even though there is plenty of room on the slab sides of the cars, where they chose to simply advertise "pickles." In comparison, the open vat car is all but unmarked, which leads me to think it is NOT a Heinz car.


Dennis Storzek


Eric Hansmann
 

Here's a 1923 image of the School Street yard of the B&O Allegheny BBranch. Click on the image for easier review and to zoom in on the freight cars.

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.231799.CP


The HJ Heinz plant is less than a mile to the right and served by this branch. Four of five pickle tank cars are the Heinz coffin type cars while one is open. Just beyond the Heinz is a Lutz & Schramm Pickles & Preserves operation. 

The Allegheny Branch is the focus of my next layout set in 1926. Pickle tank cars will be part of the ever evolving fleet.

And yes, I also see that Heinz vinegar tank car. I wish we could see a Barrett tank car in the mix as there was a small Barrett Manufacturing facility about a quarter mile to the left of this yard.


Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


On February 27, 2018 at 7:10 AM "'Doug Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:



Allen I have not seen a photo of a Heinz car with an open frame work and visible vats. The only photos I have seen of Heinz pickle cars were enclosed cars, what are often called “coffin” cars.

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20170417-hpichswp-0075/from_search/-68

A good source of information and photos is Dave Leider’s book on the pickle industry. http://vinpic.dhke.com/

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 



 


Douglas Harding
 

Allen I have not seen a photo of a Heinz car with an open frame work and visible vats. The only photos I have seen of Heinz pickle cars were enclosed cars, what are often called “coffin” cars.

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20170417-hpichswp-0075/from_search/-68

A good source of information and photos is Dave Leider’s book on the pickle industry. http://vinpic.dhke.com/

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Allen Cain
 

Very nice looking car!

 

FYI I also have some pics showing angle iron side bracing instead of tie rods on Square Dingee pickle cars.  Wonder what Heinz used on theirs? Rods or Angles?

 

Should would like to have a pic of the Heinz Open Side Pickle Cars.  [HINT, HINT]

 

Allen Cain

 


Eric Bergh
 

Yes, I am pretty sure it is the Tichy Flat... looks like I forgot to fill in the holes for the stake pockets, sigh. Oh well, no longer going to have a pickle plant on the module so it won't be running often :)
-Eric Bergh


Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks Eric! That works.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/139379399@N03/25618780997/in/album-72157666151
476198/


Did you use the Tichy flat car as the base model?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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Try the link now. I think the permissions are fixed. Man, I sure miss Photo
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Eric Bergh
 

Try the link now. I think the permissions are fixed. Man, I sure miss Photo Bucket. Flicker isn’t intuitive, at least for me... hard to be sure from my macine if changes are enough to make pic show.
-eric bergh


Eric Hansmann
 

Erich,

 

Your Flickr site won’t open. Do you have your settings as private or public?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 - will need a few pickle cars for the next layout

 

 


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Hi Gary,

I did build one of the pickle cars several years ago. I do not recall any particular problems with the project. It probably is a better build than using an old Ambroid kit since they are providing you with laser cut parts, etc. and things do go together quite well. Detail is ok, but not really fine... I did add truss rods to the sides, as per some photos I found online... I didn't ever get around to adding cut levers, etc to the flatcar though :).

Here's an old iPhone pic - it did not like my weathering much, looks kinda splotching, but fortunately better on the car. Decals are mine.

Enjoy the build!

 

 

Here's a link to my pic:  Open in new window

Eric Bergh

 



Jim Williams <wwww5960@...>
 

I did two....Pics attached.......Fragile ..........I purchased three kits to get two....roof supports break as they are removed from the sheet....glued an pined  them back together over and over....I liked the result but didn't find it entertaining....Jim Williams

On ‎Sunday‎, ‎February‎ ‎25‎, ‎2018‎ ‎06‎:‎31‎:‎36‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PST, 'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@earthlink.net [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


It is listed as a flat car load:

 

http://www.laserkit.com/images/391Aweb.jpg 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock
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Eric Bergh
 

Hi Gary,
I did build one of the pickle cars several years ago. I do not recall any particular problems with the project. It probably is a better build than using an old Ambroid kit since they are providing you with laser cut parts, etc. and things do go together quite well. Detail is ok, but not really fine... I did add truss rods to the sides, as per some photos I found online... I didn't ever get around to adding cut levers, etc to the flatcar though :).
Here's an old iPhone pic - it did not like my weathering much, looks kinda splotching, but fortunately better on the car. Decals are mine.
Enjoy the build!


Here's a link to my pic:  Open in new window
Eric Bergh
 


gary laakso
 

It is listed as a flat car load:

 

http://www.laserkit.com/images/391Aweb.jpg 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock