1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Nice 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA. The reefer side appears to be painted in a two color scheme, and has a herald but I do not recognize it right away. Is this a BAR reefer?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Tim O'Connor
 


Yes it is a BAR ex-MDT reefer - But it appears that the BAR added access doors
on the end of this car! I have never seen good photos of their ends unfortunately. Some
of the ex-MDT cars had steel ends, which makes me wonder how many of the cars
had modified ends.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/4/2021 5:34 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Nice 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA. The reefer side appears to be painted in a two color scheme, and has a herald but I do not recognize it right away. Is this a BAR reefer?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


George Courtney
 

Tim,

   Are you aware of any  photos of BAR reefers (ex-NYC) that did not have end doors?

Thanks,
George Courtney


Mike Smeltzer
 

Tim, are you sure they are end doors and not reinforced ends. Those ends remind me of the reinforcement the NH did to their ice cars in company service.

Just a thought...

On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 4:54 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Yes it is a BAR ex-MDT reefer - But it appears that the BAR added access doors
on the end of this car! I have never seen good photos of their ends unfortunately. Some
of the ex-MDT cars had steel ends, which makes me wonder how many of the cars
had modified ends.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/4/2021 5:34 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Nice 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA. The reefer side appears to be painted in a two color scheme, and has a herald but I do not recognize it right away. Is this a BAR reefer?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


lrkdbn
 

That car was one of the MDT reefers reconditioned by Pullman ca. 1945-this included external end reinforcement. Not an end door.
Larry King


Bill Adam
 

Looking on google maps, surprisingly this warehouse still exists, but the surrounding area has been built up.


Tim O'Connor
 


Larry do you if all of the ex-MDT reefers received this end reinforcement? And was it done on both ends?

Tim O'Connor

On 4/4/2021 8:51 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io wrote:
That car was one of the MDT reefers reconditioned by Pullman ca. 1945-this included external end reinforcement. Not an end door.
Larry King

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Scott
 

Cool photo.  Interesting building for sure.  The track leading up to it looks pretty sketchy for sure.

Scott McDonald


ROGER HINMAN
 

A lot did but not all; cars that received end supports were renumbered from their original number. Cars in the 1950s still in their original number would not have them even though some did have steel ends applied. I’ll take the stand that both ends would’ve received it. I have a copy of the spec that covered the rework but I’d have to dig it out and reread it. 
Larry’s correct about it not being a door.


Roger Hinman

On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Larry do you if all of the ex-MDT reefers received this end reinforcement? And was it done on both ends?

Tim O'Connor

On 4/4/2021 8:51 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io wrote:
That car was one of the MDT reefers reconditioned by Pullman ca. 1945-this included external end reinforcement. Not an end door.
Larry King

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts