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Ann Arbor Boxcar
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Ann Arbor Boxcar An oldie caught in 2017: https://www.flickr.com/photos/148747074@N04/23669978468/in/pool-1121705@N21/ Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Bill Welch
USRA 40-ton DS rebuild with steel
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bill and List Members,
Not so quick - that is what I thought too, but the
car has 7-8 ends, not 5-5-5 ends.
Claus Schlund
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I think these are ex-Wabash cars - a Sunshine mini-kit that mostly involved applying new ends to the Tichy box car? Or perhaps ex-DT&I? Or both Wabash and DT&I? Tim O'Connor Hi Bill and List Members, Not so quick - that is what I thought too, but the car has 7-8 ends, not 5-5-5 ends. Claus Schlund
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rwitt_2000
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:03 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
Here's the USRA rebulit with 5-5-5 ends. Bob Witt |
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Benjamin Hom
Bob Witt wrote:
"Here's the USRA rebulit with 5-5-5 ends." Rebuilt USRA DS boxcar indeed, but NOT Ann Arbor NOR Wabash. The LOVX plug door cars are a second rebuild of DT&I 11000-11299. The Cambre roof is the giveaway, as only the DT&I used it for USRA DS boxcar rebuilds. Ben Hom |
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Here is clearer proof of the Ann Arbor car being ex-Wabash - both roads' lettering is visible. And you can see the 7/8 ends. Tim Bob Witt wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Ben, is this one of the FIRST rebuilds of 11000-11299 that you refer to? Thanks Tim O'Connor ========================= Bob Witt wrote: "Here's the USRA rebuilt with 5-5-5 ends." Rebuilt USRA DS boxcar indeed, but NOT Ann Arbor NOR Wabash. The LOVX plug door cars are a second rebuild of DT&I 11000-11299. The Cambre roof is the giveaway, as only the DT&I used it for USRA DS boxcar rebuilds. Ben Hom -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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And here's yet another DT&I rebuild, also with 5/5/5 ends - this one appears to be
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identical to the LOVX car. The DT&I had some very interesting freight cars! Tim O' ============================== Rebuilt USRA DS boxcar indeed, but NOT Ann Arbor NOR Wabash. The LOVX plug door cars are a second rebuild of DT&I 11000-11299. The Cambre roof is the giveaway, as only the DT&I used it for USRA DS boxcar rebuilds. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts* |
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Benjamin Hom
Tim O'Connor wrote: "Ben, is this one of the FIRST rebuilds of 11000-11299 that you refer to?" Correct. Here's more information from Brian Everett's DT&I website: Ben Hom |
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Benjamin Hom
Tim O'Connor wrote: "And here's yet another DT&I rebuild, also with 5/5/5 ends - this one appears to be identical to the LOVX car. The DT&I had some very interesting freight cars!" DT&I 19150-19199, rebuilt a second time at DT&I Jackson Shops in 1958. These cars were later leased and ran under LOVX and WRX reporting marks. (Roof misidentified as "Murphy" on webpage; cars retained the Cambre radial roof of the initial rebuilding.) Ben Hom |
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Craig Wilson
Definitely ex-Wabash double-sheath cars rebuilt as steel-sheath cars. They operated in revenue service as AA 1100-series cars then became MofW/Company Service boxcars. Most were black as MofW cars but a few were repainted orange in later years, especially if they had special equipment or a specific use. One was stenciled "Pettibone Car".
And ... now for something completely different ... check out the attached photo. AA X4624 was a plain old black car used for company material storage at the Cadillac, Michigan freight house. In 1972 the "Michigan Artrain" began operating and one of its first tours brought it to Cadillac where it would be parked next to that black boxcar at the freight house. The local high school art class got permission to "spruce up" the site and they got to repaint the boxcar. Both sides of the car had different artwork on it. While sitting in Cadillac, it had no lettering on it. Prior to being moved to Boat Landing yard at Elberta it was given the lettering shown in the photo that I shot in July 1976. Ultimately it went to the AA shop in Owosso and was repainted in a plain oxide red scheme. Craig Wilson Sure would make an interesting custom decal project, wouldn't it? |
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Here's another one, still in the black paint. And it appears to have a PEACOCK brake wheel. Tim O'Connor Definitely ex-Wabash double-sheath cars rebuilt as steel-sheath cars. They operated in revenue service as AA 1100-series cars then became MofW/Company Service boxcars. Most were black as MofW cars but a few were repainted orange in later years, especially if they had special equipment or a specific use. One was stenciled "Pettibone Car". --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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No Tim,
That wheel is a 24" Miner wheel. Ann Arbor used Miner Hand Brakes almost exclusively. Dan Smith |
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Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
The hand brake itself is a variation of Miner's 3290/3290-X/3290-XL or one of the predecessor Miner worm gear hand brakes. The hand wheel may be an early Miner 24" diameter wheel. If it is the Miner 24" wheel then the hand brake is most likely a predecessor to the 3290 series of hand brakes. |
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Dan
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You're right, on both counts. ALMOST. :-) Tim No Tim, --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Tim,
I did say almost. The Ajax on this car is almost certainly a replacement hand brake wheel and gear. Zooming in as best I can, can't see the release lever or if it has one. That would tell a lot on age of Ajax housing. Definitely not original to time period of those ends. No full top flange. Gene, go back and look at photos of AA boxcars. Really early versions of Miner hand brakes and going to the Double A historical group might be useful to find photos of early Miners, a low production hand brake in the early power hand brake era as you know. And they evolved quickly early on. Finding an available version of the 24" Miner wheel ( 2 versions ) is high on my list. Associated gear would be a bonus. Dan Smith |
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Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
Dan, and anyone else interested, I have a copy directly from the Miner organization of one of the 24" hand wheels. If anyone, or any manufacturer, would like a copy, I would be happy to oblige. Gene Green |
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