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Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car?
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vapeurchapelon
Hello friends,
please have a look at this model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CY-AT-amp-SF-Express-Boxcar-FP-4211-Green-/142961353520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=9mTv0M29qUj01fYqS%252B2D1Me5tKU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc In order to convert it to an ordinary Box car, would it be sufficient just to remove the steam line, to add freight car coupler lift bars and a new paint job of course? (Or did these cars in this form run in freight trains occasionally?) Many thanks Johannes
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John Barry
Johannes, The ARA class BX Fe-24 represented by the Coach Yard model occasionally found it's way into freights as I've seen one photo of an instance in Ohio. That said, it depends on when you model. After AMTRAK, they all went into freight service, prior to that, the passenger equipped Fe-24s would be assigned to freight service during lulls in the express business. So during WWII and Korea or any year during the Christmas rush, green express boxes in freights not so much. John John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:46 AM Subject: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Hello friends, please have a look at this model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CY-AT-amp-SF-Express-Boxcar-FP-4211-Green-/142961353520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=9mTv0M29qUj01fYqS%252B2D1Me5tKU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc In order to convert it to an ordinary Box car, would it be sufficient just to remove the steam line, to add freight car coupler lift bars and a new paint job of course? (Or did these cars in this form run in freight trains occasionally?) Many thanks Johannes
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vapeurchapelon
Many thanks John,
I am modelling the early post-war years up to maybe '52 or '53. According to your notes it would be better to cenvert the model. (After I have found one - I am not the winner of this auction...)
Johannes
Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2018 um 18:23 Uhr
Von: "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> An: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Johannes,
The ARA class BX Fe-24 represented by the Coach Yard model occasionally found it's way into freights as I've seen one photo of an instance in Ohio. That said, it depends on when you model. After AMTRAK, they all went into freight service, prior to that, the passenger equipped Fe-24s would be assigned to freight service during lulls in the express business. So during WWII and Korea or any year during the Christmas rush, green express boxes in freights not so much.
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:46 AM Subject: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Hello friends,
please have a look at this model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CY-AT-amp-SF-Express-Boxcar-FP-4211-Green-/142961353520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=9mTv0M29qUj01fYqS%252B2D1Me5tKU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc In order to convert it to an ordinary Box car, would it be sufficient just to remove the steam line, to add freight car coupler lift bars and a new paint job of course? (Or did these cars in this form run in freight trains occasionally?) Many thanks Johannes
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John Barry
The Walthers (LifeLike) is a reasonable stand in out of the box but the decorated versions have an incorrect side panel count for the Santa Fe car. The correct side panels are on the end door versions and a solution for an accurate model is to replace the end doors with an A end from another kit, cut out the side sill tabs, and repaint to suit. As built, the freight versions came with Barber S-2 trucks, but many freight units got the Allied full cushion units in truck swaps with the passenger versions when they had derailment issues. Others got ASF ride control trucks. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Many thanks John,
I am modelling the early post-war years up to maybe '52 or '53. According to your notes it would be better to cenvert the model. (After I have found one - I am not the winner of this auction...)
Johannes
Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2018 um 18:23 Uhr
Von: "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> An: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Johannes,
The ARA class BX Fe-24 represented by the Coach Yard model occasionally found it's way into freights as I've seen one photo of an instance in Ohio. That said, it depends on when you model. After AMTRAK, they all went into freight service, prior to that, the passenger equipped Fe-24s would be assigned to freight service during lulls in the express business. So during WWII and Korea or any year during the Christmas rush, green express boxes in freights not so much.
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:46 AM Subject: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Hello friends,
please have a look at this model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CY-AT-amp-SF-Express-Boxcar-FP-4211-Green-/142961353520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=9mTv0M29qUj01fYqS%252B2D1Me5tKU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc In order to convert it to an ordinary Box car, would it be sufficient just to remove the steam line, to add freight car coupler lift bars and a new paint job of course? (Or did these cars in this form run in freight trains occasionally?) Many thanks Johannes
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vapeurchapelon
John,
many thanks again, but - it may be strange, but this model would be for my 100%-brass freight train I am currently building.
Johannes
Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2018 um 19:22 Uhr
Von: "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> An: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? The Walthers (LifeLike) is a reasonable stand in out of the box but the decorated versions have an incorrect side panel count for the Santa Fe car. The correct side panels are on the end door versions and a solution for an accurate model is to replace the end doors with an A end from another kit, cut out the side sill tabs, and repaint to suit. As built, the freight versions came with Barber S-2 trucks, but many freight units got the Allied full cushion units in truck swaps with the passenger versions when they had derailment issues. Others got ASF ride control trucks.
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Many thanks John,
I am modelling the early post-war years up to maybe '52 or '53. According to your notes it would be better to cenvert the model. (After I have found one - I am not the winner of this auction...)
Johannes
Gesendet: Montag, 12. November 2018 um 18:23 Uhr
Von: "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> An: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Johannes,
The ARA class BX Fe-24 represented by the Coach Yard model occasionally found it's way into freights as I've seen one photo of an instance in Ohio. That said, it depends on when you model. After AMTRAK, they all went into freight service, prior to that, the passenger equipped Fe-24s would be assigned to freight service during lulls in the express business. So during WWII and Korea or any year during the Christmas rush, green express boxes in freights not so much.
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:46 AM Subject: [RealSTMFC] Sante Fe Express Box car easy to convert to "normal" freight car? Hello friends,
please have a look at this model: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CY-AT-amp-SF-Express-Boxcar-FP-4211-Green-/142961353520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=9mTv0M29qUj01fYqS%252B2D1Me5tKU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc In order to convert it to an ordinary Box car, would it be sufficient just to remove the steam line, to add freight car coupler lift bars and a new paint job of course? (Or did these cars in this form run in freight trains occasionally?) Many thanks Johannes
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