C&O six-axle heavy duty flat


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Claus,

I wish we could see the whole number. In 1958, C&O had eight well flat cars. Cars numbered 80975 and 80977-80979 were 52' 8" overall. Cars 80996-80999 were 62' 6" overall. Both groups rode on 6 -wheel trucks and had a capacity of 250,000 pounds.

These cars are not shown in Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989). When they were built is a mystery, but the photo in question is dated 1951.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 3/11/19 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


Tim O'Connor
 

Claus

I found that image in the Google LIFE magazine collection about 10 years ago. There are quite a
few wonderful railroad (and general steam era) images in the collection.

Tim O'




On 3/11/2019 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Tim O'Connor
 


I don't think it's a well hole flat. It appears to have a flat deck. But clearly
a high capacity car. The last two digits of the number are clearly 52.

C&O 80950 to 80959 were FM flats with 250,000 lbs capacity. So I think the car number
in the photo must be 80952.

Tim O'



On 3/11/2019 8:41 PM, Garth Groff wrote:
Claus,

I wish we could see the whole number. In 1958, C&O had eight well flat cars. Cars numbered 80975 and 80977-80979 were 52' 8" overall. Cars 80996-80999 were 62' 6" overall. Both groups rode on 6 -wheel trucks and had a capacity of 250,000 pounds.

These cars are not shown in Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989). When they were built is a mystery, but the photo in question is dated 1951.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 3/11/19 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Not sure now but the C&O may have swapped some six-axle flats with the NYC.

On March 11, 2019 at 8:41 PM Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:

Claus,

I wish we could see the whole number. In 1958, C&O had eight well flat cars. Cars numbered 80975 and 80977-80979 were 52' 8" overall. Cars 80996-80999 were 62' 6" overall. Both groups rode on 6 -wheel trucks and had a capacity of 250,000 pounds.

These cars are not shown in Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989). When they were built is a mystery, but the photo in question is dated 1951.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 3/11/19 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


 


 


al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

These came the same time as the deep-well 6-axle flats.  I believe I sent my C&O flat cars binders with photos down to Clifton Forge.  Al Kresse

On March 11, 2019 at 10:25 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Claus

I found that image in the Google LIFE magazine collection about 10 years ago. There are quite a
few wonderful railroad (and general steam era) images in the collection.

Tim O'




On 3/11/2019 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


 


S. Busch
 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC


S. Busch
 

 

OPPS!  My bad,

 

The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:

 

Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc.

 

Hope I got it right this time.

 

Mea culpa!

 

Steve Busch

 

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC

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Benjamin Hom
 

Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom


al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Is this the same type of C&O depressed center flat car? It was not covered in our 1945 cars redo of the 1937 cars book. Chessie Sys diag book has it built in 1971 and was Class F-26. C&O 80990 and 91 were similar.

Al

On March 12, 2019 at 3:56 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net> wrote:


Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom