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Kind of interesting CB&Q boxcar.


Scott
 

Does anybody have any information on this car in the ebay page below?  It says it was taken in 1963 but it looks like its been around for a while.  Lots of little interesting details on it lime the roof to side transition and side rivit pattern.  I wonder if this was a rebuild of a single sheathed car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPLICATE-RAILROAD-SLIDE-CHICAGO-BURLINGTON-amp-QUINCY-20507-boxcar-TEXAS-1963-/143168131329?txnId=0

Scott McDonald


Rupert Gamlen
 

Scott

20507 was a class XP-1A built in 1942 at Galesburg, one of only 10 in the class (20500-20509), with a mono rail and hoist, and an end door 9’ 1” x 10’.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
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Does anybody have any information on this car in the ebay page below?  It says it was taken in 1963 but it looks like its been around for a while.  Lots of little interesting details on it lime the roof to side transition and side rivit pattern.  I wonder if this was a rebuild of a single sheathed car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPLICATE-RAILROAD-SLIDE-CHICAGO-BURLINGTON-amp-QUINCY-20507-boxcar-TEXAS-1963-/143168131329?txnId=0

Scott McDonald

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mopacfirst
 

Might be possible to combine the end door from a Proto boxcar with a Proto 50' single door body.

As a general practice, 50' single door cars with end doors were very rare, and the 1942 build date suggests something specifically built for a defense plant contract.  The hoist suggests something heavy like aircraft engines.

This car is probably well documented by Burlington specialists, so I hope one enlightens us.

Ron Merrick


Eric Lombard
 

Hello Everyone,

CB&Q 20500-20509
 This is a rara avis! In a series of only ten, a photo is an unexpected treat. These cars, built 1941-1942,  have inset side sills with brackets supporting the wider side sheathing. All other of the many 40-6 and 50-6 steel cars built new by the CB&Q have side sheets flush with the side sills. Maybe the 20500-20509 series are rebuilds? There is no note of this in equipment diagram but that they were built by CB&Q, Galesburg, IL. The reweigh date on #20507 looks like 5-7x? If somebody has more definitive information on this small series it would be great to hear from you!

20000-20024     25 XP-1     1940 Dreadnaught (
20025-20090     65 XP-1     1941-2 Dreadnaught (
20500-20509     10 XP-1A   1941-2 Auto end doors
20100-20199   100 XP-1B   1947 Dreadnaught Imp
20200-20299   100 XP-1B   1949 Dreadnaught Imp

1942     10  RBLT? Galesburg, IL.
1943(7)     10
1960(10)     10

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 12:33 AM Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:
Does anybody have any information on this car in the ebay page below?  It says it was taken in 1963 but it looks like its been around for a while.  Lots of little interesting details on it lime the roof to side transition and side rivit pattern.  I wonder if this was a rebuild of a single sheathed car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPLICATE-RAILROAD-SLIDE-CHICAGO-BURLINGTON-amp-QUINCY-20507-boxcar-TEXAS-1963-/143168131329?txnId=0

Scott McDonald


Tim O'Connor
 


Were these cars built brand new, or were they rebuilds of older cars? I have several shots of cars without
the end doors.

Tim O'Connor


On 3/23/2019 2:50 AM, Rupert Gamlen wrote:

Scott

20507 was a class XP-1A built in 1942 at Galesburg, one of only 10 in the class (20500-20509), with a mono rail and hoist, and an end door 9’ 1” x 10’.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 6:34 p.m.
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Kind of interesting CB&Q boxcar.

 

Does anybody have any information on this car in the ebay page below?  It says it was taken in 1963 but it looks like its been around for a while.  Lots of little interesting details on it lime the roof to side transition and side rivit pattern.  I wonder if this was a rebuild of a single sheathed car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPLICATE-RAILROAD-SLIDE-CHICAGO-BURLINGTON-amp-QUINCY-20507-boxcar-TEXAS-1963-/143168131329?txnId=0

Scott McDonald



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Rich C
 

There are a few other railroads that had these also, Santa Fe and New York Central to name a couple. Ted Culotta has an excellent kitbashing article in:




Rich Christie

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 7:32:19 AM CDT, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:


Might be possible to combine the end door from a Proto boxcar with a Proto 50' single door body.

As a general practice, 50' single door cars with end doors were very rare, and the 1942 build date suggests something specifically built for a defense plant contract.  The hoist suggests something heavy like aircraft engines.

This car is probably well documented by Burlington specialists, so I hope one enlightens us.

Ron Merrick


Charlie Vlk
 

All-

Could the cars have been built for the same type of service (aircraft parts) as the XA-14D raised roof single sheathed 50 ft DD Boxcars rebuilt in 1942 for B-26 Marauder wings and later the B-29 Superfortress fuselage housings applied to 69 FM-14 Flatcars in 1944?

Charlie Vlk  

 

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Scott

20507 was a class XP-1A built in 1942 at Galesburg, one of only 10 in the class (20500-20509), with a mono rail and hoist, and an end door 9’ 1” x 10’.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 6:34 p.m.
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Kind of interesting CB&Q boxcar.

 

Does anybody have any information on this car in the ebay page below?  It says it was taken in 1963 but it looks like its been around for a while.  Lots of little interesting details on it lime the roof to side transition and side rivit pattern.  I wonder if this was a rebuild of a single sheathed car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPLICATE-RAILROAD-SLIDE-CHICAGO-BURLINGTON-amp-QUINCY-20507-boxcar-TEXAS-1963-/143168131329?txnId=0

Scott McDonald

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