Tangent Tank Car Additions


Michael Gross
 

Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Bill Keene
 

Hello Michael,

Very nice work. Really like the weathering … and the new / improved details. 

When you get home — now that you have had the practice — I will bring my Tangent tank car by for your to weather. 

Thanks for sharing your work.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On May 9, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV <IMG_3150.jpg><IMG_3150.jpg>


Tim O'Connor
 


I just noticed something about that model - on the right side, where the builder initials are,
it says GATX instead of GATC. Builder photos from that era usually show something like

  G.A.T.C.Co.

in that location. Was this car a repaint? Is this a Tangent error? I'm just curious.

Nice repair on that car, and fine weathering too.

Tim O'Connor





On 5/9/2019 6:24 PM, Michael Gross wrote:

Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


O Fenton Wells
 

Hey Michael, well done it’s a good looking car. Maybe you should break more cars. Great results 
Fenton 


On May 9, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Bill Keene via Groups.Io <bill41@...> wrote:

Hello Michael,

Very nice work. Really like the weathering … and the new / improved details. 

When you get home — now that you have had the practice — I will bring my Tangent tank car by for your to weather. 

Thanks for sharing your work.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On May 9, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV <IMG_3150.jpg><IMG_3150.jpg>


Gene Deimling
 

Michael
very nice job on the weathering. 

Gene Deimling


Steve and Barb Hile
 

Michael and Tangent have both done some great work with this car.  But one thing has always bothered me, the size of the lift ring on the safety valve.
 
Since I was assembling one of these cars from a kit, I asked Richard Hendrickson to share a photo of a prototype car, which he did.  Note the size of the lifting ring on the center safety valve.
 
About that same time, Bill Welch made us aware of some tinier eye rings etched by Peter Aue, too.  So I replaced the kit supplied ones with the smaller etched versions.  It is probably still oversized, but does not stand out as much as the stock ones do.  Another easy model upgrade.  Yarmouth has a set that are probably also Peter's.
 
Steve Hile


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Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


al_brown03
 

Michael, 

Nice car!!

AL B.


Michael Gross
 

That's an excellent question Tim.

Perhaps Steve Hill has an answer for it.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Michael Gross
 

Thanks Gene and Fenton.  Still more weathering to do after I get the extra parts painted.
Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Michael Gross
 

Thank you, Al!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Michael Gross
 

Sorry for that mis-type:  I obviously meant Steve HILE!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Michael Gross
 

Steve, I so appreciate your note.  I have those Yarmouth Eye Bolts (done by Peter Aue), and will use them on the safety valves.  Good catch, and very grateful for it.

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Steve and Barb Hile
 

I used the excellent decals from Black Cat in Canada for my model.  I believe that he includes some extra material now for the Tangent car.  See http://www.blackcatdecals.com/product/gatx20717-h-gatx-tank-cars-1920s-1965/


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That's an excellent question Tim.

Perhaps Steve Hill has an answer for it.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


vapeurchapelon
 

Beautyful car, no doubt!
But do you have installed plastic wheels? The flanges do look much larger than regular RP25s.
 
Best regards
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
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Von: "Michael Gross" <ActorMichaelGross@...>
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Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Michael Gross
 

Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
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Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Tim O'Connor
 

that's a really good idea! doh, it never occurred to me to do that. :-[

Tim O'

On 5/10/2019 9:34 AM, Michael Gross wrote:
Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
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Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Michael,
 
this definitely makes sense.
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
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Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
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Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Lawrence Rast
 

Micahel,

Brilliant. Many thanks for the idea!

Lawrence Rast
Fort Wayne, Indiana


On May 10, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
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Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


jerryglow2
 

Back when I was in SoCal and ran a model paint shop, one friend sharpened dowls to use in place of wheelsets when we media blasted trucks.


Tim O'Connor
 

Jerry

That's also a good idea - I think I will just pull the wheels off of some Athearn plastic wheelsets
and use the AXLES ! This may keep grit and paint out of the inside of the journal bearings. :-)

Tim O'

On 5/11/2019 3:49 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:
Back when I was in SoCal and ran a model paint shop, one friend sharpened dowls to use in place of wheelsets when we media blasted trucks.
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*