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Athearn 200 ton crane directions -- help request


Alexander Schneider Jr
 

I am trying to reassemble this model, and it's not obvious how the large hook, small hook and boom are connected with string to the three capstains inside the body. If anyone has a set of assembly directions showing the correct routing I would appreciate it very much.

Thanks.

Alex Schneider


Benjamin Hom
 

Alex Schneider asked:
"I am trying to reassemble this model, and it's not obvious how the large hook, small hook and boom are connected with string to the three [capstans] inside the body. If anyone has a set of assembly directions showing the correct routing I would appreciate it very much.

Courtesy of HO Seeker (https://www.hoseeker.net).


Ben Hom


fire5506
 

I have not built the Athearn 200 ton crane. The Brown hoist 150 ton steam crane I fired on had the boom cables on the top drum, the auxiliary hook on the center hook and the main hook on the bottom drum.

Richard Webster


fire5506
 
Edited

Here are a few things that may help you figure out the rigging.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Athearn-1702-HO-200-ton-Crane-SF-/293100168968?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
 Look at the pictures on the ebay ad. Down load them for reference.

Also some steam info to help figuring the rigging.

The cable to the boom, both ends go to the drum. On the 2 hooks one end goes to the drum and the other end attaches to the boom for the auxiliary hook and on the main hook it attaches on the hook. See the pictures.

The PDF is the Tichy instructions and the last page shows the boom cable routing on it. 

Richard Webster


Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Attached are two photos of WP 37, as steam and as diesel, plus two of the SP's Roseville wrecker (the whole train was painted in faux-Daylight colors). The B&W shot of 37 is from my collection, the color view is my own and dates from the late 1970s, and the SP crane shots are also my work and date to around around 2005.
Perhaps they will help with the rigging questions. Otherwise, please enjoy them.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff



Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Allan Smith
 


Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952
Al Smith
Sonora CA

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎27‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎23‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:


    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Benjamin Hom
 

Al Smith wrote:
"Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952"

Posted a copy on Friday.  See post #165808.


Ben Hom




Alexander Schneider Jr
 

My thanks to all who offered help. As it happens, my crane appears to be the 1973 model with fewer pulleys on the boom rigging.

 

Alex Schneider

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Athearn 200 ton crane directions -- help request

 

Al Smith wrote:

"Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952"

 

Posted a copy on Friday.  See post #165808.

 

 

Ben Hom

 

 

 


Alexander Schneider Jr
 

The reassembled, re-rigged crane is now on my layout and looking very good for its age. Assembly was tricky with directions, and probably impossible without.

 

Alex Schneider

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alexander Schneider Jr
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Athearn 200 ton crane directions -- help request

 

My thanks to all who offered help. As it happens, my crane appears to be the 1973 model with fewer pulleys on the boom rigging.

 

Alex Schneider

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Athearn 200 ton crane directions -- help request

 

Al Smith wrote:

"Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952"

 

Posted a copy on Friday.  See post #165808.

 

 

Ben Hom

 

 

 


Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Trivial point, but there was at least one additional version … after the crane was released as a plastic offering there were two versions … with and without the stack for the steam boiler. The stackless version supposedly representing a crane converted to Diesel power, though such cranes usually had external vents for the radiators needed to cool the engines, and the Athearn crane’s cab remained unmodified.

Another detail worth mentioning is that the diecast metal version of the crane featured fully working equalized 6-wheel Buckeye trucks (fussy to assemble). After the crane was converted to plastic the trucks just had just solid one-piece plastic frames (still available today).

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:


Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952
Al Smith
Sonora CA
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎27‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎23‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:


    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Dan,

Ah, fussy trucks! I had one of the metal cranes picked up second-hand as a youngster. It had some non-sprung metal trucks, which I now gather might have been a substitution. They were always loose, and the crane tripped over everything it went around a curve. I never got the monster completely put together, as there were no instructions.
Being zamac, eventually the boom pivot cracked, and it was in my junk box when I sold off all my HO stuff when I went off to college. I think I still have the smaller hook in my parts bin somewhere.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 7/28/19 8:40 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell wrote:
Trivial point, but there was at least one additional version … after the crane was released as a plastic offering there were two versions … with and without the stack for the steam boiler. The stackless version supposedly representing a crane converted to Diesel power, though such cranes usually had external vents for the radiators needed to cool the engines, and the Athearn crane’s cab remained unmodified.

Another detail worth mentioning is that the diecast metal version of the crane featured fully working equalized 6-wheel Buckeye trucks (fussy to assemble). After the crane was converted to plastic the trucks just had just solid one-piece plastic frames (still available today).

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:


Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952
Al Smith
Sonora CA
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎27‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎23‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:


    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS



Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Dan,

Ah, fussy trucks! I had one of the metal cranes picked up second-hand as a youngster. It had some non-sprung metal trucks, which I now gather might have been a substitution. They were always loose, and the crane tripped over everything it went around a curve. I never got the monster completely put together, as there were no instructions.
Being zamac, eventually the boom pivot cracked, and it was in my junk box when I sold off all my HO stuff when I went off to college. I think I still have the smaller hook in my parts bin somewhere.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 7/28/19 8:40 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell wrote:
Trivial point, but there was at least one additional version … after the crane was released as a plastic offering there were two versions … with and without the stack for the steam boiler. The stackless version supposedly representing a crane converted to Diesel power, though such cranes usually had external vents for the radiators needed to cool the engines, and the Athearn crane’s cab remained unmodified.

Another detail worth mentioning is that the diecast metal version of the crane featured fully working equalized 6-wheel Buckeye trucks (fussy to assemble). After the crane was converted to plastic the trucks just had just solid one-piece plastic frames (still available today).

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:


Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952
Al Smith
Sonora CA
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎27‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎23‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:


    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS



Alexander Schneider Jr
 

I plan to buy the new trucks, as I  can't see a way to get the old wheel sets out and replace them with ones having metal wheels. 

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 7:41 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell
<danmitch@...> wrote:
Trivial point, but there was at least one additional version … after the crane was released as a plastic offering there were two versions … with and without the stack for the steam boiler. The stackless version supposedly representing a crane converted to Diesel power, though such cranes usually had external vents for the radiators needed to cool the engines, and the Athearn crane’s cab remained unmodified.

Another detail worth mentioning is that the diecast metal version of the crane featured fully working equalized 6-wheel Buckeye trucks (fussy to assemble). After the crane was converted to plastic the trucks just had just solid one-piece plastic frames (still available today).

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:


Try this source https://hoseeker.net/athearninstructionscars1950/Athearncrane1952.jpg. If that link doesn't work go to hoseeker.net select literature scroll down to athearn click on athearn  and select freight car instructions1950's scroll down to Crane big hook 1952
Al Smith
Sonora CA
On ‎Saturday‎, ‎July‎ ‎27‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎23‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:


    Remember Athearn produced two versions of the crane.  The first was zamac and had 3 pulleys for boom and main hook.  The later version was plastic and had 1 pulleys  in place of the three.
-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS