Detailing Tichy 2-Bay USRA hopper


Rob Adams
 

For those interested in the images, I'm forwarding a copy of Bill's original message with attachments from my personal archive.

Regards,

Rob Adams



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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Detailing Tichy 2-Bay USRA hopper
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:59:51 -0700
From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Reply-To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io


A few years ago the Boys at the Clearwater Car Shops built a few of the Tichy USRA 2-bay hoppers for their favorite railroads. Some purest don’t like this kit because the two middle panels are wider than the other panels (legend has it that this was a compromise to related to getting enough room for the trucks). No matter, the Boys love this kit, as it requires only a few additional details to make it appropriate for the various railroads the boys work for. The L&N and Clinchfield owned the USRA cars while the L&N, NC&StL, and Tennessee Central owned copies—in the case of the L&N they owned thousands of copies.

The Boys built this model as a NC&StL car but they never got around to giving it a coat of Oxide Red paint. Recently the Boys got very excited when they discovered a photo of one of these cars stenciled for the Tennessee Central since up close photos of these cars in TC stenciling have proved to been very elusive. The rare photo revealed that the TC and NC&StL cars are identical down to their use of Two-Level Dalman trucks. The gears starting turning and they were able to persuade a friend to do a set of decals. So the Boys are now planning to paint this car black. Before they do so they suggested I share few photos so people can what they details they added.

On the sides they added Route Card Holders on the right end on the sill plus the carved styrene from the Bolsters to thin them. The Boys did their usual manipulating to A-Line Type “A” brass sill steps to duplicate those used on the prototype. On the right side they added the Airline Pipe, Pipe Brackets, and Pipe Union.

On the ends 0.005 styrene was used to create the Mounting Bracket for the Reservoir and Bracket for the Brake Staff. An A-Line Sill Step serves as a bracket at the bottom of the Brake Shaft while a Tichy nut/bolt/washer (NBW) serves to hold the brake wheel tight on the brake shaft. For some reason the ends are devoid of NBW detail so I added Detail Associates parts above where the end grab irons are installed. In looking the photos I see I still need to add a few NBW’s for the short and long left side grabs and for the long grab on the right side of each end. The model will ride on the beautiful Tahoe Dalman trucks.

Bill Welch


Tim O'Connor
 

:-(

groups.io must have chosen "most recent" instead of the "oldest" attachments. Bill sent those in 2020. What a bummer.

On 1/14/2023 3:09 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io wrote:

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Justin

The question is what happened to the attachments ?? I thought that STMFC had ample storage space that is paid for ?
Does groups.io delete attachments automatically after a time ?
This group does have ample room, but on two occasions (about a month apart as I recall), before the upgraded storage space was paid for, we hit the limit and groups.io deleted a bunch of photos to get below the limit.

Tom Madden


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Tom Madden
 

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Justin

The question is what happened to the attachments ?? I thought that STMFC had ample storage space that is paid for ?
Does groups.io delete attachments automatically after a time ?
This group does have ample room, but on two occasions (about a month apart as I recall), before the upgraded storage space was paid for, we hit the limit and groups.io deleted a bunch of photos to get below the limit.

Tom Madden
 


Tim O'Connor
 

Justin

The question is what happened to the attachments ?? I thought that STMFC had ample storage space that is paid for ?
Does groups.io delete attachments automatically after a time ?


On 1/14/2023 11:35 AM, Justin May wrote:

Resurrecting an old thread of interest, would anyone happen to have the associated images Bill Welch included in his original email? The links are no longer functioning, and sadly I did not save them. Bill's work was always inspirational to review and study. 

Thank you,
Justin Mays

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Justin May
 

Resurrecting an old thread of interest, would anyone happen to have the associated images Bill Welch included in his original email? The links are no longer functioning, and sadly I did not save them. Bill's work was always inspirational to review and study. 

Thank you,
Justin May


Bill Welch
 

I appreciate the info Bob but i am modeling October 1955 when the stenciling would be very different. Also for this particular design I am only focused on the "Ya'll" roads that owned them, originals and copies.

Bill Welch


Bob Webber
 

CC&O, DL&W, LV, D&H, B&O, BR&P, P&R, NYC, ERR, NYNH&H & BLE are listed on the United States Standard lettering diagram for 55-ton hopper cars dated Oct. 1919 - stenciling drawings and details are also available. For this and Gons, Boxes, Cabooses (composite and steel, etc. Brake drawings, (including one for the 100-ton gon) Ventilated Box, Auto Car - so if The Boys so chose, they can get the information.

At 03:59 PM 9/5/2019, Bill Welch wrote:

A few years ago the Boys at the Clearwater Car Shops built a few of the Tichy USRA 2-bay hoppers for their favorite railroads. Some purest don’t like this kit because the two middle panels are wider than the other panels (legend has it that this was a compromise to related to getting enough room for the trucks). No matter, the Boys love this kit, as it requires only a few additional details to make it appropriate for the various railroads the boys work for. The L&N and Clinchfield owned the USRA cars while the L&N, NC&StL, and Tennessee Central owned copies—in the case of the L&N they owned thousands of copies.

The Boys built this model as a NC&StL car but they never got around to giving it a coat of Oxide Red paint. Recently the Boys got very excited when they discovered a photo of one of these cars stenciled for the Tennessee Central since up close photos of these cars in TC stenciling have proved to been very elusive. The rare photo revealed that the TC and NC&StL cars are identical down to their use of Two-Level Dalman trucks. The gears starting turning and they were able to persuade a friend to do a set of decals. So the Boys are now planning to paint this car black. Before they do so they suggested I share few photos so people can what they details they added.

On the sides they added Route Card Holders on the right end on the sill plus the carved styrene from the Bolsters to thin them. The Boys did their usual manipulating to A-Line Type “Aâ€&#65533; brass sill steps to duplicate those used on the prototype. On the right side they added the Airline Pipe, Pipe Brackets, and Pipe Union.

On the ends 0.005 styrene was used to create the Mounting Bracket for the Reservoir and Bracket for the Brake Staff. An A-Line Sill Step serves as a bracket at the bottom of the Brake Shaft while a Tichy nut/bolt/washer (NBW) serves to hold the brake wheel tight on the brake shaft. For some reason the ends are devoid of NBW detail so I added Detail Associates parts above where the end grab irons are installed. In looking the photos I see I still need to add a few NBW’s for the short and long left side grabs and for the long grab on the right side of each end. The model will ride on the beautiful Tahoe Dalman trucks.

Bill Welch

Attachments:
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/0>_1 Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper right side detail additions.JPG
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/1>_2 Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper Airline details.JPG
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/2>_3 Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper Sill Step.JPG
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/3>_4 Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper _B_ end details.JPG
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/4>_5Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper Air Reservoir bracket.JPG
* <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/166678/5>_6 Tichy USRA 2-bay hopper brake shaft, brake wheel _ retainer valve details.JPG
Bob Webber


Bill Welch
 

A few years ago the Boys at the Clearwater Car Shops built a few of the Tichy USRA 2-bay hoppers for their favorite railroads. Some purest don’t like this kit because the two middle panels are wider than the other panels (legend has it that this was a compromise to related to getting enough room for the trucks). No matter, the Boys love this kit, as it requires only a few additional details to make it appropriate for the various railroads the boys work for. The L&N and Clinchfield owned the USRA cars while the L&N, NC&StL, and Tennessee Central owned copies—in the case of the L&N they owned thousands of copies.

The Boys built this model as a NC&StL car but they never got around to giving it a coat of Oxide Red paint. Recently the Boys got very excited when they discovered a photo of one of these cars stenciled for the Tennessee Central since up close photos of these cars in TC stenciling have proved to been very elusive. The rare photo revealed that the TC and NC&StL cars are identical down to their use of Two-Level Dalman trucks. The gears starting turning and they were able to persuade a friend to do a set of decals. So the Boys are now planning to paint this car black. Before they do so they suggested I share few photos so people can what they details they added.

On the sides they added Route Card Holders on the right end on the sill plus the carved styrene from the Bolsters to thin them. The Boys did their usual manipulating to A-Line Type “A” brass sill steps to duplicate those used on the prototype. On the right side they added the Airline Pipe, Pipe Brackets, and Pipe Union.

On the ends 0.005 styrene was used to create the Mounting Bracket for the Reservoir and Bracket for the Brake Staff. An A-Line Sill Step serves as a bracket at the bottom of the Brake Shaft while a Tichy nut/bolt/washer (NBW) serves to hold the brake wheel tight on the brake shaft. For some reason the ends are devoid of NBW detail so I added Detail Associates parts above where the end grab irons are installed. In looking the photos I see I still need to add a few NBW’s for the short and long left side grabs and for the long grab on the right side of each end. The model will ride on the beautiful Tahoe Dalman trucks.

Bill Welch