Date
1 - 11 of 11
38 foot IL Commonwealth pulpwood cars
John Nehrich <nehrij@...>
Paul Graf of Atlas is looking for photos from which to create the artwork
for other versions of their HO scale pulpwood car. Supposedly the Frisco, Savannah & Atlanta, IGN, MP, SP and NCStL all had these, and maybe someone knows of other such cars. (A spotting feature would be the 38 foot IL between the bulkheads.) - John Nehrich
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Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
At 09:34 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
Paul Graf of Atlas is looking for photos from which to create the artworkJohn, "SP" didn't buy any, but T&NO (SP Texas lines) did, as did SSW (aka Cotton Belt). SP acquired the T&NO cars after the merger. I don't know of any really good builder photos, but I would LOVE to have both the T&NO and the SSW versions. Timothy O'Connor <timoconnor@mediaone.net> Marlborough, Massachusetts
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John Nehrich <nehrij@...>
Tim - There is a builder's photo of the T&NO car on our Atlas rolling stock
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guide (http://www.union.rpi.edu/railroad/images/rolling-stock/Kits/Atlas-kits.html #FM) and maybe Atlas will do it. Any photos of the SSW cars? - John
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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@mediaone.net> To: <STMFC@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] 38 foot IL Commonwealth pulpwood cars At 09:34 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote:Frisco,Paul Graf of Atlas is looking for photos from which to create the artwork someoneSavannah & Atlanta, IGN, MP, SP and NCStL all had these, and maybe knows of other such cars. (A spotting feature would be the 38 foot ILJohn, "SP" didn't buy any, but T&NO (SP Texas lines) did, as did SSW (aka
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Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
John, yes, I am familiar with that photo. But it's not what I would call a high
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quality photo. Most of the small lettering is illegible, which by today's standards is a no-go. What we need are clear, legible side and end photos. I think I've seen an equally poor photo of the SSW car too.
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From: John Nehrich <nehrij@rpi.edu> To: <STMFC@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] 38 foot IL Commonwealth pulpwood cars Tim - There is a builder's photo of the T&NO car on our Atlas rolling stock guide
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ibs4421@...
John,
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I will forward this to Steve Johnson, and see if he has any good copies of NC&StL cars for this. IIRC, Steve has worked with Atlas before, as well as LL on some of their car projects. Warren
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From: "John Nehrich" <nehrij@rpi.edu> To: <STMFC@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: [STMFC] 38 foot IL Commonwealth pulpwood cars Paul Graf of Atlas is looking for photos from which to create the artwork
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Guy Wilber
In a message dated 1/12/01 5:11:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ggg9y@virginia.edu writes: << Some of the SP wood racks are still around in MOW service. Many have been converted to tie service. I saw some year before last in Reno. >> Garth & Tim, The SP cars in Sparks went to Roseville in the midst of the UP takeover. These two cars were used in "snap track" service as Garth mentioned. Long ago I searched the underframes for the original T&NO numbers and was unable to find any info. If Atlas needs original numbering and/or SP merger numbers of the T&NO P classes, I can help. Kind Regards, Guy Wilber Sparks, Nevada
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
Tim,
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Some of the SP wood racks are still around in MOW service. Many have been converted to tie service. I saw some year before last in Reno. There are two in the Roseville wreck train that carry "snap track" for emergency shoeflies. These are painted in really snappy Daylight colors. Kind regards, Garth G. Groff Tim O'Connor wrote:
John, "SP" didn't buy any, but T&NO (SP Texas lines) did, as did SSW (aka
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
Guy,
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It was on the same trip two years ago (IIRC) that I saw similar cars at both Sparks and Roseville. The Roseville cars may have come from Sparks, but they must have been moved well before the merger. I remember seeing the Daylight cars with the crane and other wreck train cars several years ago in their usual place at the west yard, far beyond camera range. During the UP's rebuilding at Roseville, the whole wreck train was moved to a spot just behind the Roseville Telephone Company buildings and could easily be seen and photographed from public property. On my last trip out there in May, they were gone. I have some pretty good shots of these two cars, should anybody need them, though this paint scheme isn't suitable for what Atlas wants. Kind regards, Garth G. Groff guycwilber@aol.com wrote:
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John Nehrich <nehrij@...>
Garth - I'll take and post on our site (if you are willing), so maybe some
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one would like to model them from the Atlas kit. - John
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From: "Garth G. Groff" <ggg9y@virginia.edu> To: <STMFC@egroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] 38 foot IL Commonwealth pulpwood cars Guy,Long unableago I searched the underframes for the original T&NO numbers and was to find any info.To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
John,
You will find a scan of the Southern heavy duty flat car, and two of SP Commonwealth wood racks, mounted blind on my web site. Please copy them onto your own machine, rather than just linking to my images. My employer gives me limited disk space, and I will have to take them down as soon as you let me know you have them safely copied. They are at: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/sou349012.jpg http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/spmw7055.jpg http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/spmw7105.jpg I hope they aren't too dark. They looked a lot lighter on my Mac at home. Feel free to adjust the contrast as you see fit. If these are really too dark for you, I will play with them some more and remount. The Southern flat was photographed in Charlottesville, Virginia, circa 1987. SPMW 7055 was taken at Roseville, California in April 1998. SPMW 7105 was also found at Roseville in May 1994. I was the photographer of all three pictures. You are welcome to use these on your web site, or for any other non-commercial purpose, as you see fit. Credit would be appreciated, but is not required. Kind regards, Garth G. Groff
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
Group,
My apologies. My note on the scans was intended only for John Nierich. Oops. Anyway, the rest of you might find them interesting, though they are a bit out of this group's era. Kind regards, Garth G. Groff
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