Erie Boxcar red help
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as
well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the
options
Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
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Greg Martin
Or buy a bottle of Tru Color Erie Freight Car Brown, which is matched to color chips and is more brown than the red in the photo.
Nelson Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help
And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the options
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/01/20 3:14 p.m., Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
Another thought: this only really matters if you are modeling a new or recently repainted car. The Northeast was a dirty place in the 1940s and 1950s with lots of steam locos and coal-fired factories and power plants. Cars darkened pretty quickly in that environment.
Todd Sullivan
On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io <sullivant41@...> wrote:
And just to add to the discussion, most of the ERIE boxcars I saw during 5+ years of prowling about the E-L Port Jervis Yard were a lot browner than the photo posted. I suspect the slide in the photo was Kodachrome which shifted colors toward red.
Another thought: this only really matters if you are modeling a new or recently repainted car. The Northeast was a dirty place in the 1940s and 1950s with lots of steam locos and coal-fired factories and power plants. Cars darkened pretty quickly in that environment.
Todd Sullivan
On January 1, 2020 at 5:05 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
Or buy a bottle of Tru Color Erie Freight Car Brown, which is matched to color chips and is more brown than the red in the photo.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help
And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the optionsPierre Oliverwww.elgincarshops.comwww.yarmouthmodelworks.comOn 1/01/20 3:14 p.m., Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
On January 1, 2020 at 5:05 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
Or buy a bottle of Tru Color Erie Freight Car Brown, which is matched to color chips and is more brown than the red in the photo.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help
And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the optionsPierre Oliverwww.elgincarshops.comwww.yarmouthmodelworks.comOn 1/01/20 3:14 p.m., Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
On Jan 2, 2020, at 1:08 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:
Nice job on this early Westerfield car. I did this car when it first came out but that car has suffered some damage. I have decals for a later period and have obtained another kit. One note. The ladders on this and several other MP cars were wider than normal. Westerfield now has the proper ladders as a separate part.Bull PardieSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...>Date: 1/2/20 3:09 AM (GMT-10:00)To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red helpMy go-to color for a basic freight car red has become Vallejo "Rust" - which for a while was sold by Micro-Mark as "Boxcar Red." I'll usually tint it one way or the other with either a crimson red or a earth/flesh tone depending on if I want to lighten and/or darken it.It's considerably less brown and a much warmer color than the old Floquil/Polly Scale BCR, which always seemed a little bluish/purple to my eye.
Here's a car painted with straight Vallejo Rust prior to a flat coat being applied -
Marty McGuirkOn January 1, 2020 at 5:05 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
Or buy a bottle of Tru Color Erie Freight Car Brown, which is matched to color chips and is more brown than the red in the photo.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help
And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the optionsPierre Oliverwww.elgincarshops.comwww.yarmouthmodelworks.comOn 1/01/20 3:14 p.m., Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:
My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
I have to spray out on my townhouse deck when the wind dies down and the fog or fall forest fire smoke is not present which is a limitation. I can use the Vallejo washes indoors.