National Archives photo - 13 March 1941


Brian Rochon
 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Not DL&W.  No lines in the NY Navy Yard.

 

Schuyler

 

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The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Brian Rochon
 

After additional research, it looks like it may be Wallabout Union Freight Station serving PRR, NYC/West Shore, LV, B&O, CNJ, & NYO&W at Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

 

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Not DL&W.  No lines in the NY Navy Yard.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Rochon
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Dave Parker
 

Brian:

That's a nice shot of a CN Fowler with 5-ft doors (IOW the very nice Speedwitch K104 kit).  Although numerous, photos of these cars pre-AB brakes seem to be rather scarce.

Thanks for posting.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


David
 

C&O 5361 is an AAR 1937 box with Creco door but not the wacky Deco end that gets all the attention.

David Thompson


George Courtney
 

A quick glance and that second boxcar over from the Canadian National appeared for an instant to be a G &D boxcar. Of course on closer look it's C&O.

George Courtney


Ian Cranstone
 

On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

That's a nice shot of a CN Fowler with 5-ft doors (IOW the very nice Speedwitch K104 kit). Although numerous, photos of these cars pre-AB brakes seem to be rather scarce.
That first CN car was built as Canadian Northern 83726 by Canadian Car & Foundry in January 1919 — technically, as CN had been formed the month before, it was actually delivered as a CN car (albeit with CNoR number and lettering), but it took CN another year or so to issue their renumbering guide.

The second car is a CN 504xxx series car (I can’t quite make out the number), also built by Canadian Car & Foundry, but in 1929 (the so-called CNR 1929 Standard Boxcar — very common, with some 9600 cars built from 1929-1931). This was a slightly longer (40’6” vs 36’) and slightly higher inside (8’7” vs 8’) – although the increased height does not seem obvious in this photo.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@nakina.net
http://freightcars.nakina.net


Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Brian,

 

Wallabout was a car-float served DLW yard adjacent to Wallabout Creek.  Looks like it would have been very difficult to work.

 

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, California


Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

It isn’t in the Navy Yard.

 

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/dlwwallaboutterm.html

 

There were additional railroad car-float terminals on Wallabout Creek – they are also documented on different parts of that website.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, California