Evemodel HO flat cars
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Steven D Johnson
Gents,
I stumbled upon these on eBay today:
I’ve had never heard of this company, “Evemodel,” before.
Note the one “LEHIGHTON, PA 18235”…What the…? That’s the zip code for that city…
I thought these were oddities and wanted to share with the group.
Looking forward to the comments!
Steve Johnson Nashville, TN
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Kindergarten rule! (if you can't say something nice, don't say anything...)
"Oddities" is hardly the word I would use... It's way too nice 😉
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:13 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars Gents,
I stumbled upon these on eBay today:
I’ve had never heard of this company, “Evemodel,” before.
Note the one “LEHIGHTON, PA 18235”…What the…? That’s the zip code for that city…
I thought these were oddities and wanted to share with the group.
Looking forward to the comments!
Steve Johnson Nashville, TN
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Tony Thompson
Steve Johnson wrote: I stumbled upon these on eBay today: Nor have I heard of it. Might these be the old Roco flat cars, with 4-wheel trucks under them? Tony Thompson
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vapeurchapelon
I think the cars may be Chinese prototype but lettered for "everything"?
Don't know...
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. April 2020 um 02:35 Uhr
Von: "Tony Thompson" <tony@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars Steve Johnson wrote:
I stumbled upon these on eBay today: Nor have I heard of it. Might these be the old Roco flat cars, with 4-wheel trucks under them?
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Richard Townsend
These cars appear to be improved versions of the old AHM/Tyco/Model Power 50' flats (not 52'6"). Same side configuration, same number of stake pockets, same length. Detail on the sides seems to be somewhat better, and there are endsills and buffers, which were lacking on the old model. That is a vast improvement. The underframe and brake system are completely different and IMHO somewhat imaginary, though maybe there are Chinese or other cars with brake systems like that..
The Roco cars Tony refers to are longer. They essentially are stretched versions of the 50" (not 52'6") flats. The Roco flats are good starting points for the US Army 6-axle flats, as Tony has pointed out elsewhere. The 50' flats have no prototype that I am aware of.
So my bottom line, at least for now, is they are better versions of a car with no prototype. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars Steve Johnson wrote:
I stumbled upon these on eBay today: Nor have I heard of it. Might these be the old Roco flat cars, with 4-wheel trucks under them?
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pgrace
Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well) The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.
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Kai Solvei
I couldn’t find that car, but old Norwegian boxcars used by the military (collapsible benches) had the marking “40 men or 8 horses” like this car built in 1899 and in traffic until 1960.
Kai Solvei Norway
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of pgrace via groups.io
Sent: torsdag 23. april 2020 18:07 To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars
Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well) The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.
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Richard Townsend
Google "40 and 8" and find out more than you want to know about these cars. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Kai Solvei <kai@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 10:24 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars I couldn’t find that car, but old Norwegian boxcars used by the military (collapsible benches) had the marking “40 men or 8 horses” like this car built in 1899 and in traffic until 1960.
https://njk.no/kroderbanen-rullende-materiell/godsvogner/75-rullende-materiell/materiellpresentasjon-godsvogner/4769-g2-8121 By US standard a tiny car, 24 feet over the buffers, and would probably fit inside a US 40ft boxcar 😊 Kai Solvei
Norway
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of pgrace via groups.io
Sent: torsdag 23. april 2020 18:07 To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well)
The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.
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John Barry
Aw shucks, they got the number wrong on the bottom car, the prototype is PENNSYLVANIA 6-5000John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 07:51:01 PM EDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Kindergarten rule! (if you can't say something nice, don't say anything...)
"Oddities" is hardly the word I would use... It's way too nice 😉
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:13 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars Gents,
I stumbled upon these on eBay today:
I’ve had never heard of this company, “Evemodel,” before.
Note the one “LEHIGHTON, PA 18235”…What the…? That’s the zip code for that city…
I thought these were oddities and wanted to share with the group.
Looking forward to the comments!
Steve Johnson Nashville, TN
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Tom Madden
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 01:26 PM, John Barry wrote:
No dashes in PRR numbers. Besides, it's PENNSYLVANIA SIX FIVE OH OH OH Tom Madden
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No dashes in PRR numbers. Besides, it's Which will STILL get you the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC. Chuck Peck
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IIRC The saying came about because the car would hold 40 men or 8 horses. Useful information for the military planners needing to move men and materials.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kai Solvei
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:24 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars
I couldn’t find that car, but old Norwegian boxcars used by the military (collapsible benches) had the marking “40 men or 8 horses” like this car built in 1899 and in traffic until 1960.
Kai Solvei Norway
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of pgrace via groups.io
Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well) The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.
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