Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car


Tangent Scale Models
 

Tangent Scale Models is proud to introduce our next production of General American 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Cars.  As a reminder, this is the first plastic radial course tank offered in HO plastic!  (Radial course means the tank’s steel panels overlap each other, looking like “stairsteps”).

 

By the end of World War I, U.S. production of oil and oil-related products was sharply increasing thanks to the combination of war-related demands as well as demands from home.  In order to move oil and new consumer products, tank car producers introduced new car designs.  In 1917 General American Tank Car introduced a new general service 8,000 gallon non-insulated tank car.  Built in East Chicago, IN, these cars were easily identifiable by their circumferential rivets that surrounded the tank body, with notably different heights between the courses.  These “radial course” tank cars utilized steel bolster plates that rise up vertically to hold the tank in place, complete with a “web” section behind to minimize steel consumption.  At a time of fairly monochromatic box cars plying the rails, most consumable products and oil shippers proudly displayed their company markings on the tanks.  Additionally, tank car lessor firm Union Tank Line purchased a very large fleet of these cars as well, decorated in the distinctive UTLX “gold on black” scheme.  Between UTLX, Deep Rock, and other schemes to come in future releases, think of this as the first “crude oil” tank car of consequence.  The GATC 1917-design prototypes were the most prolific tank cars built during this period and were found everywhere from 1917 to roughly 1970. 

 

The Tangent Scale Models GATC 1917-Design 8,000 Gallon General Service Tank Car is a highly-detailed tank car model that includes details accurate for each paint scheme, including KC- or AB-brake variations, with or without Cardwell draft sill springs, and different hand brakes.  Other visually-distinctive details for our models include the “see through” bolster section, circumferential rivets, and differing course heights.  Our RTR models include correct “true-to-life” colors and “hyper-accurate” lettering including exact fonts and lettering placement.  Finally, our scale replicas operate as well as they look, equipped with free-rolling all-metal wheels and Kadee® scale couplers, meaning our models are truly ready to run.  

           

Our new ready to operate replicas are in stock and available for sale NOW.  That’s right, no preorders!  Check them out by clicking here!

Whether wearing “plain” UTLX black lease colors or the colors of a lessee, these replicas will certainly be eye-catchers on your layout!  Check out the radial courses – they look like nothing else in HO!  Our May 2020 release includes the following four paint schemes:

 

- DMSX "Dunbar Molasses New Orleans 1919+" is our offering for the early steam-era modelers out there.  This model is offered in the attractive “Dunbar Molasses and Syrup Company” scheme with classy white stenciling on the side of the car.  Also, NEW ORLEANS, LA. is proudly stenciled on the car.  As always, this scheme comes directly off of a prototype car that matches our model.  Molasses was a common 8000 gallon tank car commodity even if it “sounds” unusual!  It was a core ingredient in foodstuffs, animal feed, vinegar, citric acid, etc.  Our Dunbar Molasses 1919+ cars come with era-correct K-brakes and are available in two road numbers.

 

- GATX " Union Starch and Refining Company 1950+" in the attractive “Union Starch and Refining Company – Quality Products From Corn” bright red scheme with accompanying white stenciling with black border.  These cars also feature “GRANITE CITY, ILLINOIS” spelled out.  This transition-era tank car is another great nationwide roamer, seen on all corners of the North American rail network hauling corn products. These models come with an AB brake system, and are available in four road numbers.

 

- UTLX "1926+ Lease" is one of two UTLX offerings in this production run: an “early” and a “later” car.  Union Tank Car Company’s UTLX lease fleet was comprised of tank cars from a variety of builders, including several large orders for GATC tank cars.  Numbering in the thousands, this fleet was part of the backbone of the large Standard Oil-owned fleet and are very relevant cars for those that need UTLX tanks – and more statistically relevant than the ACF prototypes you probably already have on your layout now (sorry, but it is true).  These nationwide service cars include a 1926 safety valve date, repack date, and paint date on the side of the car and underframe.  The car has appropriate and era-correct UTLX stenciling, and an era-correct K brake system.  This UTLX lease scheme is available in twelve road numbers.

 

- UTLX "Black Repaint 1958+" is the second of two UTLX offerings in this production run.  This scheme is the prototype repaint that was applied to UTLX cars in 1958.  The car also includes an era-appropriate AB brake system.  This UTLX lease scheme is available in six new road numbers for 2020.    
       

 

- Undecorated RTR Black cars are ready for decaling! 

 

- Undecorated Unpainted Kits are available as well.  When folks claim that “no one” makes kits anymore, well, here they are.  These are ready for building or kitbashing, and painting / decaling.  Great for those who desire to build their own. 

 

Features for these awesome replicas include:

- Circumferential riveted tank body and riveted underframe (count ‘em, there are many!)

- Radial course tank body – note the “stairstep” appearance!

- All-new underframe for the GATC 1917-design

- “See-through” cast knee above the bolsters

- Accurate dome appliances

- Dimensionally-correct hazardous placards with accurate hole detail

- Separately applied tank handrail

- Separately applied tank strap detail

- KC- or AB- brake variations depending on the prototype car

- Inclusion of Cardwell draft sill springs depending on the prototype car, otherwise “oval” frame openings where the springs were removed

- Different hand brake appliance options depending on the prototype car

- Highly correct “true to life” colors

- “Hyper-Accurate” lettering including exact fonts and lettering placement, including lettering applied to the underframe and air reservoir

- Durable wire grab irons and coupler lift bars

- Separate air hoses

- “Near-scale” draft gear box with side detail

- Kadee® “scale-head” couplers

- CNC-machined 33” wheels in high-quality Tangent Scale Models ASF cast steel truck with spring plank and with separate brake beams

- Replacement semi-scale wheels available separately from Tangent

- Multiple road numbers for each scheme - these cars often traveled in "groups" of more than one

- Recommended age 14 years and older

 

Don’t miss out on the Tangent Scale Models General American 8,000 gallon 1917-design radial course tank car!  Just like its prototype, this car will stand out on any layout situated from 1917 to 1970, and they went everywhere!

 

Pricing for RTR models is $44.95.  High-resolution images showing these fine replicas are available at www.tangentscalemodels.com and our site also includes prototype images for your reference as well.

 

That wraps up our update for today, and thank you for supporting the family-owned businesses in our industry! 

 

David Lehlbach, Founder

Tangent Scale Models - “Unparalleled scale replicas for discriminating railroad modelers”

www.tangentscalemodels.com


Ken Adams
 

Ordered the kit. No great savings but I just like to roll (build) my own....

Now I need 1945-1952 period deals for UTLX.
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Dave Parker
 

Ken:

The kit will allow you to (appropriately) omit the dome ladder and platform on the right side.

Finding good decals that will readily do this car may prove challenging.  Good luck!
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Brian Carlson
 

Decals are easy. May have to “cut and paste” to get an appropriate number and other data. 

On May 30, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab@...> wrote:

Ken:

The kit will allow you to (appropriately) omit the dome ladder and platform on the right side.

Finding good decals that will readily do this car may prove challenging.  Good luck!
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Bill Welch
 

Also Steve "Mr. UTLX" Hile has decal sets. Feeling lazy I ordered the assembled undec. black one.

Bill Welch


Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Ken,
 
I too generally prefer kits and I was going to order a couple, but the they apparently don’t include K brake parts and AB brakes are too late for me.  Now, I see the kits are already sold out!  I may still order a couple the early RTR cars.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Ken Adams
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
 
Ordered the kit. No great savings but I just like to roll (build) my own....

Now I need 1945-1952 period deals for UTLX.
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Brian Carlson
 

Ralph It was sku 19000-01 and it’s sold out. 

The undec AB brake kit is also sold out. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On May 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:


Hi Ken,
 
I too generally prefer kits and I was going to order a couple, but the they apparently don’t include K brake parts and AB brakes are too late for me.  Now, I see the kits are already sold out!  I may still order a couple the early RTR cars.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Ken Adams
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
 
Ordered the kit. No great savings but I just like to roll (build) my own....

Now I need 1945-1952 period deals for UTLX.
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Brian,
 
Thanks, and I missed them on the previous run too.
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
 
Ralph It was sku 19000-01 and it’s sold out. 
 
The undec AB brake kit is also sold out.

Brian J. Carlson

On May 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:


Hi Ken,
 
I too generally prefer kits and I was going to order a couple, but the they apparently don’t include K brake parts and AB brakes are too late for me.  Now, I see the kits are already sold out!  I may still order a couple the early RTR cars.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Ken Adams
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
 
Ordered the kit. No great savings but I just like to roll (build) my own....

Now I need 1945-1952 period deals for UTLX.
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


pennsylvania1954
 

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Brian Carlson
 

Probbably do gatx in the future. 
I too have too many UTLX ACF cars.

Too bad that rumored X-3 from Exxactrail newer happened.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On May 30, 2020, at 6:34 PM, pennsylvania1954 <stevehprr@...> wrote:

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Bill Welch
 

Dan Kohlberg offers General American decals for Tangent's 8K welded tank car: http://www.icgdecals.com/ga29.htm

I have the car but cannot find the decal I bought. . .

Bill Welch


Steve and Barb Hile
 

I suspect that I have done this exercise a time or two before.  There is much more detail in the UTLX book.  Personally, I am drawn to model 1952, so it is good to have both the UTLX record and the 1955 Tank Car Tariff to make comparisons.

 

In round numbers in 1952, UTLX rostered about 41,000 tank cars.  The listings below account for about 38,000 of those and don’t include very small, very large or multi-compartment cars.

 

10,000 gallon Class X-3                   10,561

8000 gallon Class X-3                       1923

6500 gallon Class X-3                       3838

10,000 gallon Class X                          972

8000 gallon Class X                           3156

6,500 gallon Class X                            605

10,000 gallon Class X-4                     493

11,000 gallon Class X-5-300           5302

11,000 gallon Class X-5-400             391                       Total UTLX design cars   27,241 cars

10,000 gallon Class Z                        3431

8000 gallon Class Z                           6761

11,000 gallon Class Z-5-300             382                       Total non-UTLX design cars          10,574 cars          Total      37,815 cars

 

The only HO models of the UTLX design cars were/are the resin kits from Sunshine Models and, more recently, from Resin Car Works.

 

UTLX purchased, new, at least 1000 of the 8000 gallon GATC designed cars (the Tangent car) and certainly acquired others of these through second hand purchases in the 1930’s.  They also purchased, new, some from Standard Tank Car Company, both 8000 and 10,000 gallon cars.  (Southern Car and Foundry underframe, but need horizontally riveted tanks.)

 

Second hand 8000 and 10,000 gallon ACF tank cars (the P2k models) were also added to the fleet during the 1930’s

 

Mostly in the rush to expand the roster of high pressure tank cars following WWII, UTLX also purchased ACF designed Z-5-300’s, like the Kadee car.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of pennsylvania1954
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Steve, 

Nice list, but you forgot that UTLX bought 500 welded ACF 10K cars in 1951, their series 39000-39499. Richard Hendrickson identified the often-lamented Red Caboose model as a suitable representation of these cars.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 10:01 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I suspect that I have done this exercise a time or two before.  There is much more detail in the UTLX book.  Personally, I am drawn to model 1952, so it is good to have both the UTLX record and the 1955 Tank Car Tariff to make comparisons.

 

In round numbers in 1952, UTLX rostered about 41,000 tank cars.  The listings below account for about 38,000 of those and don’t include very small, very large or multi-compartment cars.

 

10,000 gallon Class X-3                   10,561

8000 gallon Class X-3                       1923

6500 gallon Class X-3                       3838

10,000 gallon Class X                          972

8000 gallon Class X                           3156

6,500 gallon Class X                            605

10,000 gallon Class X-4                     493

11,000 gallon Class X-5-300           5302

11,000 gallon Class X-5-400             391                       Total UTLX design cars   27,241 cars

10,000 gallon Class Z                        3431

8000 gallon Class Z                           6761

11,000 gallon Class Z-5-300             382                       Total non-UTLX design cars          10,574 cars          Total      37,815 cars

 

The only HO models of the UTLX design cars were/are the resin kits from Sunshine Models and, more recently, from Resin Car Works.

 

UTLX purchased, new, at least 1000 of the 8000 gallon GATC designed cars (the Tangent car) and certainly acquired others of these through second hand purchases in the 1930’s.  They also purchased, new, some from Standard Tank Car Company, both 8000 and 10,000 gallon cars.  (Southern Car and Foundry underframe, but need horizontally riveted tanks.)

 

Second hand 8000 and 10,000 gallon ACF tank cars (the P2k models) were also added to the fleet during the 1930’s

 

Mostly in the rush to expand the roster of high pressure tank cars following WWII, UTLX also purchased ACF designed Z-5-300’s, like the Kadee car.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of pennsylvania1954
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Is the disparity between UTLX and GATC tank cars a regional thing? Frankly I can
remember sighting very few GATC cars north of the Boston & Maine's Fitchburg 
line in New England.

My best, Don Valentine


Steve and Barb Hile
 

Garth is correct, I did overlook a couple of line items, which I will add below in Red.

 

Thanks,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:55 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

Steve, 

 

Nice list, but you forgot that UTLX bought 500 welded ACF 10K cars in 1951, their series 39000-39499. Richard Hendrickson identified the often-lamented Red Caboose model as a suitable representation of these cars.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 10:01 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I suspect that I have done this exercise a time or two before.  There is much more detail in the UTLX book.  Personally, I am drawn to model 1952, so it is good to have both the UTLX record and the 1955 Tank Car Tariff to make comparisons.

 

In round numbers in 1952, UTLX rostered about 41,000 tank cars.  The listings below account for about 38,000 of those and don’t include very small, very large or multi-compartment cars.

12,000 gallon Class X-3                    620 

12,000 gallon Class X-3W                500

10,000 gallon Class X-3                   10,561

10,000 gallon Class X-3W                500

8000 gallon Class X-3                       1923

6500 gallon Class X-3                       3838

10,000 gallon Class X                          972

8000 gallon Class X                           3156

6,500 gallon Class X                            605

10,000 gallon Class X-4                     493

11,000 gallon Class X-5-300           5302

11,000 gallon Class X-5-400             391                       Total UTLX design cars   28,861 cars

10,000 gallon Class Z                        3431

8000 gallon Class Z                           6761

11,000 gallon Class Z-5-300             382                       Total non-UTLX design cars          10,574 cars          Total      39485 cars

 

The only HO models of the UTLX design cars were/are the resin kits from Sunshine Models and, more recently, from Resin Car Works.  The Red Caboose 10,000 gallon welded tank car is quite close to the UTLX X-3W design.

 

UTLX purchased, new, at least 1000 of the 8000 gallon GATC designed cars (the Tangent car) and certainly acquired others of these through second hand purchases in the 1930’s.  They also purchased, new, some from Standard Tank Car Company, both 8000 and 10,000 gallon cars.  (Southern Car and Foundry underframe, but need horizontally riveted tanks.)

 

Second hand 8000 and 10,000 gallon ACF tank cars (the P2k Type 21 models) were also added to the fleet during the 1930’s.  There were almost no ACF Type 29 tank cars (the Intermountain cars) among the second hand purchases by UTLX.

 

Mostly in the rush to expand the roster of high pressure tank cars following WWII, UTLX also purchased ACF designed Z-5-300’s, like the Kadee car.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of pennsylvania1954
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Steve and Barb Hile
 

Drat.  Should be ACF Type 27 not 29.  Sorry.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

Garth is correct, I did overlook a couple of line items, which I will add below in Red.

 

Thanks,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:55 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

Steve, 

 

Nice list, but you forgot that UTLX bought 500 welded ACF 10K cars in 1951, their series 39000-39499. Richard Hendrickson identified the often-lamented Red Caboose model as a suitable representation of these cars.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 10:01 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I suspect that I have done this exercise a time or two before.  There is much more detail in the UTLX book.  Personally, I am drawn to model 1952, so it is good to have both the UTLX record and the 1955 Tank Car Tariff to make comparisons.

 

In round numbers in 1952, UTLX rostered about 41,000 tank cars.  The listings below account for about 38,000 of those and don’t include very small, very large or multi-compartment cars.

12,000 gallon Class X-3                    620 

12,000 gallon Class X-3W                500

10,000 gallon Class X-3                   10,561

10,000 gallon Class X-3W                500

8000 gallon Class X-3                       1923

6500 gallon Class X-3                       3838

10,000 gallon Class X                          972

8000 gallon Class X                           3156

6,500 gallon Class X                            605

10,000 gallon Class X-4                     493

11,000 gallon Class X-5-300           5302

11,000 gallon Class X-5-400             391                       Total UTLX design cars   28,861 cars

10,000 gallon Class Z                        3431

8000 gallon Class Z                           6761

11,000 gallon Class Z-5-300             382                       Total non-UTLX design cars          10,574 cars          Total      39485 cars

 

The only HO models of the UTLX design cars were/are the resin kits from Sunshine Models and, more recently, from Resin Car Works.  The Red Caboose 10,000 gallon welded tank car is quite close to the UTLX X-3W design.

 

UTLX purchased, new, at least 1000 of the 8000 gallon GATC designed cars (the Tangent car) and certainly acquired others of these through second hand purchases in the 1930’s.  They also purchased, new, some from Standard Tank Car Company, both 8000 and 10,000 gallon cars.  (Southern Car and Foundry underframe, but need horizontally riveted tanks.)

 

Second hand 8000 and 10,000 gallon ACF tank cars (the P2k Type 21 models) were also added to the fleet during the 1930’s.  There were almost no ACF Type 27 tank cars (the Intermountain cars) among the second hand purchases by UTLX.

 

Mostly in the rush to expand the roster of high pressure tank cars following WWII, UTLX also purchased ACF designed Z-5-300’s, like the Kadee car.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of pennsylvania1954
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

From all of Elden's research here in the archives, wouldn't GATX be more common than UTLX on these General American cars? I have more UTLX than I should, thanks to the P2K offerings, and not enough GATX which was the largest fleet circa my 1953. I have GATX decals coming from Black Cat.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Mark Hemphill
 

Steve Hile:  I apologize for my ignorance about tank cars. I'm not following where the recently re-released Tangent GATC car fits in the summary UTLX roster you posted above. Could you advise, please.

Mark Hemphill


Tim O'Connor
 

Garth

I don't know about any lamentations... but it's pretty much an exact match to the Red Caboose model
if you replace the running boards with open-grid steel. Plano makes an etched metal set for the model.

The US Army (DOD) and UTLX were the largest buyers for the cars represented by the model. Perhaps
people lament inaccurate paint schemes, but then they'd be lamenting most of what is out there in hobbyland.

I think Red Caboose offered both Army and UTLX paint schemes. I know I sent pictures to Bill.



On 5/31/2020 5:54 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Steve, 

Nice list, but you forgot that UTLX bought 500 welded ACF 10K cars in 1951, their series 39000-39499. Richard Hendrickson
identified the often-lamented Red Caboose model as a suitable representation of these cars.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Steve and Barb Hile
 

In 1920, UTLX purchased 1000 tank cars from General American to the GATC 1917 design, which is the Tangent car.  Originally, these cars were numbered 70000 – 70999 as the beginning of the 7xxxx series of car numbers representing the Class Z (non UTLX design) cars.  Fairly soon the cars were renumbered to 71000 and above to allow the 70xxx series to be used for 10000 gallon cars.  Other commercially built cars from Standard Tank Car Company and Pennsylvania Tank Car Company were also inserted in 7xxxx series.  From the late 1920’s through the 1930’s (and beyond) both UTLX and GATC acquired the fleets of smaller oil tank cars and assimilated them into their fleets.  For UTLX this included cars built by both ACF and GATC into the 7xxxx and other series, based on capacity and internal heaters, etc.

 

I hope that this is helpful.  There is a much more in the UTLX book published by Speedwitch, including lots of photographs!.  (Shameless plug.)

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Hemphill via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

 

Steve Hile:  I apologize for my ignorance about tank cars. I'm not following where the recently re-released Tangent GATC car fits in the summary UTLX roster you posted above. Could you advise, please.

Mark Hemphill


Bill Welch
 

I have to admit whenever I see a comment like ". . . it's pretty much an exact match to the Red Caboose model if you replace the running boards with open-grid steel. Plano makes an etched metal set for the model." tossed out I laugh to myself and also wench. I have two RC kids and two of the Plano etched running boards. They are on a shelf at eye level I walk by too many time a day to count and occasionally I will pause, open one of the RC boxes and look at the frame with the molded on running board for a few moments, say to myself "Not today" and put it back on the shelf. I just did it again just now. This is not minot model surgery in my opinion. I would love to know it anyone has ever done this surgery and would love even more to see their results.

Bill Welch