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Vallejo Paints for Steam Era Freight Cars


Bruce Griffin
 

Friends,

A while back I posted some photos of my Vallejo paint samples. I have continued to add more colors to my palette. My goal is to be able to use these paints on my B&O freight cars and of course on all of my other models.  In my last blog post I mentioned using them as part of total system that I am committing to for future projects. Last week I was successful at matching the paint (40% German Red Brown and 60% Basic Brown) on a stock Atlas P&WV boxcar (photo attached, it has been weathered) after I changed the roof walk (Kadee and I see one end needs a touch more canopy glue) and brake wheel to more closely match the prototype. After I receive the Speedwitch mini-kit I will update it more. 
 

I know some of you are using them and most are not. Fair enough. I would like to develop this project a little further. If anyone is interested in working on it please contact me directly. My hope is to collect formulas or 2”x2” paint samples of other brands and favorite model paint colors and match them with Vallejo colors. That way I can share photos of the formulas versus traditional railroad model paints online and you can decide for yourself if they are close to your favorite color. 

If I am going to do it, I should share it with everyone, as I appreciate all the sharing that this group does regularly. I owe something back.

Who knows the future after recent events, but I was betting on Vallejo for long term access to model paints as they are international and have deep reach into multiple hobby markets including military modelers and gamers. My endorsement may mean they will go under soon (jk).

Thank you for your consideration  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Jim Hayes
 

I assume you're aware of MRHs color matching table. I don't have a good eye for color and I use exclusively Vallejo. I use MRHs table when people say they used other brands. Not every color is matched but it's a good start. I applaud your effort to extend the Vallejo usage.

    JimH


Brian Carlson
 

I was not.  I tried searching for it and I found discussion in forums but no actual chart. Can someone post a link.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On May 30, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:


I assume you're aware of MRHs color matching table. I don't have a good eye for color and I use exclusively Vallejo. I use MRHs table when people say they used other brands. Not every color is matched but it's a good start. I applaud your effort to extend the Vallejo usage.

    JimH


Bruce Griffin
 

Jim,

Yes, the MRH guide (link below) is a great start. I am hoping to add to it as it has limited specifics that so many on this list might want to know. For example PRR FCC would be important for many freight car modelers in our era. 

https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ebook/MRH-Acrylic-painting-guide-post-Floquil-Portrait.ashx

I will contact you off list to see if you would be willing to supply some 2"x2" paint sample of your colors and I will reciprocate.  My thought is exchange 2"x2" samples on white styrene so we don't have to buy every color. Then as we develop formulas that match existing favorite colors we can share them broadly. 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Bruce Griffin
 

Brian,

The link to the MRH Guide is https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ebook/MRH-Acrylic-painting-guide-post-Floquil-Portrait.ashx

My original post was 
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/message/161417
but the photos do not appear to be attached so I will add new ones here. My recent blog is linked in my signature. There are new colors added and you can see it is nice to have a sample of discontinued products on a card nearby to compare to and decide what matches. As a good researcher my aim is to provide information in the best way possible, explicitly point out the limitations of the information (photographed with 5000k bulbs), and let you decide. I will offer conclusions but ultimately you decide what works.  

For example, to me Vallejo Red Leather is similar and maybe a little light to match PollyScale Zinc Chromate Primer, which I have used on several post war B&O boxcars. I will do some experimenting to see what I think might work. 

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


William Hirt
 

For those who still would like to use Floquil and Polly Scale, I found that Narrow Gauge Modeling Company sells unopened bottles. I recently purchased several bottles from them and they were in new unopened condition.

Here is the link for Floquil:

http://www.narrowgaugemodeling.com/floquil-paint/

Here is the link for Polly Scale:

http://www.narrowgaugemodeling.com/polly-scale-paint/

Bill Hirt

On 5/30/2020 11:23 PM, Bruce Griffin wrote:

Brian,

The link to the MRH Guide is https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ebook/MRH-Acrylic-painting-guide-post-Floquil-Portrait.ashx

My original post was 
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/message/161417
but the photos do not appear to be attached so I will add new ones here. My recent blog is linked in my signature. There are new colors added and you can see it is nice to have a sample of discontinued products on a card nearby to compare to and decide what matches. As a good researcher my aim is to provide information in the best way possible, explicitly point out the limitations of the information (photographed with 5000k bulbs), and let you decide. I will offer conclusions but ultimately you decide what works.  

For example, to me Vallejo Red Leather is similar and maybe a little light to match PollyScale Zinc Chromate Primer, which I have used on several post war B&O boxcars. I will do some experimenting to see what I think might work. 

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


G.J. Irwin
 

Bruce Griffin courteously provided the link to the MRH color matching guide:

The link to the MRH Guide is https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ebook/MRH-Acrylic-painting-guide-post-Floquil-Portrait.ashx

Considering that Testors/Rustoleum recently announced more discontinuances of their model-focused paints (no comment!) I wonder how long this document will remain on their domain.  A download of this guide should be easy.  I'd recommend it.

Cheers,
George Irwin


Ken Adams
 

Vallejo is a delight to work with.  6 drops of 2 colors and 1 drop of Vallejo Air Brush thinner and I was able to brush paint an the ends and sides of an HO caboose I am working on. The paint leveled completely without any visible brush strokes. 
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Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek