A better pin vise
I'm having trouble finding a pin vise that holds smaller (#80 and the higher 70's) drill bit securely.
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steve_wintner
I bought several over the years. Eventually I gave up and dropped the cash for the Starretts. And they are fantastic.
I do have one other that is great, a very small one that only open up to about .025. it grips small ones, it's only about 1.5 inches long. Dunno where I found it, wish I could so I could buy a backup. Because it's so small you have good feel. Steve
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steve_wintner
I should Google more and spout off less.
https://www.micromark.com/High-Precision-Micro-Pin-Vise That's the one. Steve
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Nelson Moyer
I picked up a Tamiya pin vise at Trainfest last year after the chuck on my old collar type pin vise quit holding #80 bit securely. I’ve used the Tamiya for #78-80 bits and the old one for larger bits. The Tamiya has a screw type chuck and comfortable feel. I also picked up a cheap collar type pin vise, but the design places the collar too close to the end of the chuck, and it’s impossible to see the tip of the bit to place it accurately – another example of cheap, poorly designed Chinese junk. Prior to Trainfest, I ordered a Swiss made collar type pin vise from Erlinger, but the chuck jaws were unevenly milled and would not hold the bit straight. I talked to the company and they checked the remaining inventory and reported that all their remaining stock was defective, so I returned it for a refund. Expect to pay at least $25 for a quality pin vise for reliable results with #80 bits. If it’s cheaper, you probably won’t like it.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:50 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
I'm having trouble finding a pin vise that holds smaller (#80 and the higher 70's) drill bit securely.
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ed_mines
I bought an expensive one from a site I learned about on the old STMFC forum which sells to professional machinists - it worked real well and wasn't outrageously expensive. |
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WILLIAM PARDIE
I have found over the years that mos tpin vises for small drills have a short lifespan. I have resorted to using a small pin vice (no swivel head) from Micro Mark #15116. In fact I keep 10 of them on my workbench loaded with 71 to 80 drills. This saves a lot of time. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "ed_mines via groups.io" <ed_mines@...> Date: 7/21/20 7:54 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise I bought an expensive one from a site I learned about on the old STMFC forum which sells to professional machinists - it worked real well and wasn't outrageously expensive.
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Tony Thompson
I hesitate to speculate about what this particular vice might involve . . . Tony Thompson
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Allen Cain
Amazon sells the Starrett in two sizes. Here is the smaller one which holds 60 to 80 and maybe smaller bits with 0-0.040" claimed capacity: Not outrageous if you have Prime Membership with free shipping or can combine it with another order. Allen Cain
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charles slater
Bill I was having the same problems with pin vises going bad and would not hold the # 70-80 drill bits anymore. I got two new ones from Micro-Mart and I could not even get a #80 drill in the small collet
on one of them as all the jaws were closed up tight. The other would not close down to hold anything smaller than a #75 drill. They both went into the trash.
I found one at our local train show in March made by Zona Tools and it is the VERY BEST, by far, one I have ever used. Go to
www.zonatool.net and the one I have is their #37-120 it is rather odd looking and has a large ball on the end that fits in the palm of your hand and you turn the chuck with your thumb and index
finger. It is very comfortable to use and I have never dropped it. Try it I think you will love it also.
Charlie Slater
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:03 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise I have found over the years that mos tpin vises for small drills have a short lifespan. I have resorted to using a small pin vice (no swivel head) from Micro Mark #15116. In fact I keep 10 of them on my workbench
loaded with 71 to 80 drills. This saves a lot of time.
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Date: 7/21/20 7:54 AM (GMT-10:00)
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
I bought an expensive one from a site I learned about on the old STMFC forum which sells to professional machinists - it worked real well and wasn't outrageously expensive.
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Robert Allan
Another vote for Starrett. Good clamp, easy to handle, light to use.
Bob Allan Omaha
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Bruce Griffin
Friends, Bruce D. Griffin
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Schuyler Larrabee
Son of a gun! That’s the vise I inherited from my grandfather, a clock maker/designer, who had a very severe case of toolitis. I have always wondered where he got it, and it’s the on I have on reserve for really delicate drilling with tiny bits. Normally I use a Bergeron No. 30432, which I don’t find using Google. Not sure where I bought it, except that it was on-line.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 4:24 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
Amazon sells the Starrett in two sizes. Here is the smaller one which holds 60 to 80 and maybe smaller bits with 0-0.040" claimed capacity:
Not outrageous if you have Prime Membership with free shipping or can combine it with another order.
Allen Cain
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Schuyler Larrabee
Bruce, If you are doing a LOT of holes, though, that knurling can get tough on your fingers. Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 10:47 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
Friends, Bruce D. Griffin
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Bill J.
I have that same MicroMart pin vice. It “ain’t zactly” a precision instrument. Go to Amazon!
Bill Jolitz
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Schuyler Larrabee
It would be helpful if you explained which vise is “that same.”
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill J. via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:45 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
I have that same MicroMart pin vice. It “ain’t zactly” a precision instrument. Go to Amazon!
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I don’t think $21.00 or so is outrageous for a quality tool you’ll use for many years.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...>
Amazon sells the Starrett in two sizes. Here is the smaller one which holds 60 to 80 and maybe smaller bits with 0-0.040" claimed capacity:
Not outrageous if you have Prime Membership with free shipping or can combine it with another order.
Allen Cain
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Kenneth Montero
Schuyler,
Try these sites for Bergeon # 30432
Ken Montero
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WILLIAM PARDIE
I havr several of these. I'm not sure if it is the same manufacturer. I don't use them as I seem to have a degree of difficulty tightening down on the drill. Maybe it's because as my wife says about my Phydical Culture evdevours " If they are nice shiney and balanced weights and there are young girls watching you can lift them. When it comes to opening a peanut bottle jar or carrying the groceries up the stairs you are useless". Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> Date: 7/22/20 10:14 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
Schuyler,
Try these sites for Bergeon # 30432
Ken Montero
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I have some of this type as well. I don’t like them as they don’t tighten well.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:38 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:
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Schuyler Larrabee
Yep, that 30432 is what I have. It does hold very small drills and pins very well.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenneth Montero
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:15 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A better pin vise
Schuyler,
Try these sites for Bergeon # 30432
Ken Montero
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