Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
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vapeurchapelon
Also to you many thanks, James!
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 22:05 Uhr
Von: "James SANDIFER" <steve.sandifer@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) Company service might be a better description. I have a number of ATSF records of them being used to provide sand to branch line stock pens for bedding purposes. I have a video of one being unloaded on an embankment to help prevent erosion.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:49 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
Hello Gary and all,
since several years I have an eye on these nice W&R models - but something lets me think that the prototypes were used exclusively or almost exclusively in MOW service - so they usually could not be seen in regular freight service. Am I wrong with this?
Many thanks and regards
Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 20:43 Uhr From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Steve SANDIFER
Company service might be a better description. I have a number of ATSF records of them being used to provide sand to branch line stock pens for bedding purposes. I have a video of one being unloaded on an embankment to help prevent erosion.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:49 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
Hello Gary and all,
since several years I have an eye on these nice W&R models - but something lets me think that the prototypes were used exclusively or almost exclusively in MOW service - so they usually could not be seen in regular freight service. Am I wrong with this?
Many thanks and regards
Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 20:43 Uhr From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Steve SANDIFER
These are Clark Car Co. 30 yard air dump cars. Santa Fe had 100 and used them for rip-rap as well as stockyard sand. W&R made HO models for them. I am seeking one or two for my ATSF layout.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:34 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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vapeurchapelon
Many thanks, Ted! Seems that I have to have such a car one day...
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 21:00 Uhr
Von: "Ted Schnepf" <railsunl@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) Hello Johannes, Air dumps would move in regular freight trains to a terminal near where they would be unloaded by or work or local way freight. The cars would haul rip rap, ballast, and sometimes ties or other timbers for MOW use. Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 01:48:59 PM CDT, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote:
Hello Gary and all,
since several years I have an eye on these nice W&R models - but something lets me think that the prototypes were used exclusively or almost exclusively in MOW service - so they usually could not be seen in regular freight service. Am I wrong with this?
Many thanks and regards
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 20:43 Uhr
Von: "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:44 AM, gary laakso wrote:
From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;Another long time builder of side dump cars was the Differential Dump Car Co., which persisted into recent times as DIFCO. Dennis Storzek
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Ted Schnepf
Hello Johannes, Air dumps would move in regular freight trains to a terminal near where they would be unloaded by or work or local way freight. The cars would haul rip rap, ballast, and sometimes ties or other timbers for MOW use. Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 01:48:59 PM CDT, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote: Hello Gary and all, since several years I have an eye on these nice W&R models - but something lets me think that the prototypes were used exclusively or almost exclusively in MOW service - so they usually could not be seen in regular freight service. Am I wrong with this? Many thanks and regards Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 20:43 Uhr Von: "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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vapeurchapelon
Hello Gary and all,
since several years I have an eye on these nice W&R models - but something lets me think that the prototypes were used exclusively or almost exclusively in MOW service - so they usually could not be seen in regular freight service. Am I wrong with this?
Many thanks and regards
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. September 2020 um 20:43 Uhr
Von: "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:34 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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gary laakso
From the W&R flyer for these cars back in 92, they were built by the Clark Car Co. in the 1920s and 1930s;
SP 3360-3373 PRR 999000-999079 or 489900-489915 NYC X6500-6535 NP 89000-89059 DL&W 95708 plus others B&O X330-324 WM 1410-1421 UP 91500-91544 and SP&S X50-51
Very finely detailed cars with additional air tanks to provide detail options. The trucks a require replacement wheels and axles.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:34 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954)
Bob,
I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bob, I found a similar car on the RF&P around 1988. It would seem that the entire gondola part of the car can be tipped using train air. Even says "AIR DUMP" to the left of the coupler. Other than that, I know nothing about who built these or how common they were. Nice to know they were around in our era of interest. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Photo: Pittsburgh & Shawmut Railroad Dump Car M-24 (1954) A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh Collection: https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A31-PandS-6-M-24 Click on the photo and then scroll to enlarge it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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