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A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars
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Andy Carlson
Hello folks- 1936 to 1940 were the years that large numbers of square corner Drednaught end equipped '37 AAR box cars were built. As can be seen in the list below of these square corner end cars, there were many 10s of thousands of them built in both Canada and the US. This list is from data in the recently released volume on 1937 AAR box cars by Pat Wider, continuing the fine series of Railroad Prototype Cyclopedias. Square corner end '37 AAR rosters by RR: ATSF 136000-136499; 136500-137999; 138000-138499; B&O 384000-384499 C&EI 64000-64499 C&O 4000-4499; 4500-4999; 5000-5399; 5400-5499 CN had 1000s CP had 1000s ERIE 78000-78499 ITC 6000-6099 KCS 14000-14199; 17000-17499; 17450-17749 NKP 15000-15499; 15500-15999 ONT 90000-90499; 90500-90999 RDG 103000-103299 SL-SF 140000-140038 SOO 136000-136198 even #s SRR 10000-12022; 12023-13042; 13043-13063; 13064-14395; 260500-26099; 261000-262036; 306000-307021 SP 32770-33269; 33270-33519; 335200-34019; 34020-34519; 37840-38089; 38090-38339; 38340-38589; 38590-38839 T&P 1700-1724; 3900-3919; 40000-40499; 40500-40999 UP 182812-18399; 184000-185899 WP 20001- 20200 These were 9'6" IH. The RPC #35's roster data pages gives much detail, such as roof,brake and other details. Anyone viewing this post with questions about a particular Rail Road's details, PM me and I will answer those questions. I would encourage a purchase of the book, as it is a very well researched and detailed offering. Southern, Union Pacific, Santa Fe, both Canadian transcons and the Southern Pacific were huge purchasers of this car design. Wish everyone a safe and very well day. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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mel perry
hi: don't forget PFE'S R40-10 class :-)
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 8:39 AM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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And there were 3 who bought S-cornered "modified 1937" AAR box cars as well... the ancient Athearn blue box car. :-)
On 11/28/2020 11:39 AM, Andy Carlson wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Rich C
Mel, The reefers are a whole different topic. Besides the PFE R-40-10, Fruit Growers, ART, WFEX and I am sure other private owner's had square cornered cars. As Andy noted, The WP cars were 9'6" IH. The Santa Fe's 136000 series and the entire KCS roster of these cars were also Interim Height cars 9' 6"-9' 8". These 3 were once offered by Speedwitch. Rich Christie
On Saturday, November 28, 2020, 10:44:03 AM CST, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:
hi: don't forget PFE'S R40-10 class :-) On Sat, Nov 28, 2020, 8:39 AM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
Andy,
The square-corned 4+5 Dreadnaught ends arrived yesterday in excellent condition –thanks.
I’ve recently read the 1937 AAR book – a bit of information overload – getting the info “through a firehouse”. But it will be a superb reference book. And thanks for the summary you’ve given in your E-Mail above.
Jim vG
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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 8:39 AM To: STMFC E-List Subject: [RealSTMFC] A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars
Hello folks- 1936 to 1940 were the years that large numbers of square corner Drednaught end equipped '37 AAR box cars were built. As can be seen in the list below of these square corner end cars, there were many 10s of thousands of them built in both Canada and the US.
This list is from data in the recently released volume on 1937 AAR box cars by Pat Wider, continuing the fine series of Railroad Prototype Cyclopedias.
Square corner end '37 AAR rosters by RR:
ATSF 136000-136499; 136500-137999; 138000-138499; B&O 384000-384499 C&EI 64000-64499 C&O 4000-4499; 4500-4999; 5000-5399; 5400-5499 CN had 1000s CP had 1000s ERIE 78000-78499 ITC 6000-6099 KCS 14000-14199; 17000-17499; 17450-17749 NKP 15000-15499; 15500-15999 ONT 90000-90499; 90500-90999 RDG 103000-103299 SL-SF 140000-140038 SOO 136000-136198 even #s SRR 10000-12022; 12023-13042; 13043-13063; 13064-14395; 260500-26099; 261000-262036; 306000-307021 SP 32770-33269; 33270-33519; 335200-34019; 34020-34519; 37840-38089; 38090-38339; 38340-38589; 38590-38839 T&P 1700-1724; 3900-3919; 40000-40499; 40500-40999 UP 182812-18399; 184000-185899 WP 20001- 20200 These were 9'6" IH.
The RPC #35's roster data pages gives much detail, such as roof,brake and other details. Anyone viewing this post with questions about a particular Rail Road's details, PM me and I will answer those questions. I would encourage a purchase of the book, as it is a very well researched and detailed offering.
Southern, Union Pacific, Santa Fe, both Canadian transcons and the Southern Pacific were huge purchasers of this car design.
Wish everyone a safe and very well day. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Aw, Tim. You tantalized us. The three known 10' 6" S-corner 40' all-steel boxcar owners were DSS&A, IC, and Soo. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:53 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Rich C
Sunshine and later Resin Car Works made mini-kits to use with the Intermountain Modified Height car, for those roads. Of course they have been sold out. Chad Boas and Pierre Oliver (Yarmouth Model Works) offer the square corner 5/5's Rich Christie
On Saturday, November 28, 2020, 03:05:43 PM CST, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:
Aw, Tim. You tantalized us. The three known 10' 6" S-corner 40' all-steel boxcar owners were DSS&A, IC, and Soo. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆 On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:53 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Tim
The Illinois Central IH was 10’4”.
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On Nov 28, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Rich C via groups.io <rhcdmc@...> wrote:
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Rich C
True, but I won't tell anyone, lol. The 3 foot rule applies Rich Christie
On Saturday, November 28, 2020, 06:33:15 PM CST, Tim via groups.io <atoolman2@...> wrote:
The Illinois Central IH was 10’4”. On Nov 28, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Rich C via groups.io <rhcdmc@...> wrote:
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Frank Hodina
Working on finishing up a new one-peice body kit for the IC square corner post cars.
Frank Hodina Resin Car Works
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Has anyone got proof (dimension drawing or blueprint) that shows where the 2" may be found? For example on some cars the doors were hung a bit lower. And floor thickness and materials are variable. And some cars received 'finished' interior roof linings. Just wonderin' ... the IC was definitely not the only operator of 10'4" IH box cars.
On 11/28/2020 7:38 PM, Rich C via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Frank Hodina
The diagram has an inside clear height of 10'-4 7/8". The general arrangement has it at 10'-5 15/32" (like it can be measured that close). Looks like the number is rounded down to the nearest even inch.
Frank Hodina
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Careful! I have not double-checked this, but I -think- the Yarmouth 5-5 end may be an old Kirlin resin cast end which was a 5-5 end made for some Canadian 10-0 IH 1937 AAR box cars. I am not familiar with Chad's door.
On 11/28/2020 5:41 PM, Rich C via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Jeffrey White
Tim, The diagram for the IC cars shows the IH at 10' 4 7/8" at the
sides. So the difference is 1 1/8". Jeff White Alma, IL
On 11/30/2020 9:30 AM, Tim O'Connor
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Jeffrey White
That will be great! A correct IC steel boxcar! Jeff White Alma, IL
On 11/30/2020 8:58 AM, Frank Hodina
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Working on finishing up a new one-peice body kit for the IC square corner post cars.
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Tim
I just finished up some IC boxcars with the square corner.
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 I also did a Centralia built Pullman Kit car.  Tim Alund
On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Jeffrey White <jrwhite@...> wrote:
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pennsylvania1954
Andy has done us a service compiling this '37 square corner info here. As a reminder for the old hands and good info for newer members, the Steam Era Freight Cars website http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/ contains a treasure trove of info, including '37 AAR boxcar info in a data base compiled by Ed Hawkins. See
http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarmain.html -- Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL
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Looking very good, Frank!
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Dan Sweeney Jr
Nice looking cars, Tim. What color paint did you use?
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Tim
It was Tru color IC freight car brown.
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Tim Alund
On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Dan Sweeney Jr <dlsweeney@...> wrote:
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