Hacked ?


Paul Doggett
 

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply!

Paul Doggett


Eric Hansmann
 

I suspect Ray's email was compromised. Probably not a site hack.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply!

Paul Doggett


Schuyler Larrabee
 

I don't think it's the site, I think Mr Stern has been hacked.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply!

Paul Doggett


Paul Doggett
 

Cheers guys
Paul

On 5 Mar 2021, at 16:20, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

I don't think it's the site, I think Mr Stern has been hacked.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply!

Paul Doggett











Jim Betz
 

These spammers/hackers -often- "harvest" a real email address (not
necessarily by hacking the owner's computer/email) and use that as
the "return address" on the email.  The real scam is in the active
link(s) in the body of the email.  You can not even rely upon the text
of the link because it is -easy- to put one thing in the text that you see
and have it actually link to another place.
  Click and be damned!
  If you know Mr. Stern personally you might tell him of what we are
seeing ... but in all probability he won't find anything on his computer
or with his email provider that is involved in this.

  I'm not sure how I feel about the "warnings" several of us have
posted to this group.  Do we really need to know about it?  In all
probability by the time the warning is raised ... any one who might
have clicked on/responded to the scam has already done so.
  I'm not saying these email scams are "nothing" ... I'm just not
sure it is important to warn the rest of us about it ... ???
                                                                                           - Jim


Bruce Smith
 

Jim, Folks,

Exactly! The phenomenon is sometimes called “spoofing” (where spammers use someone else’s legit address to send email, especially to list servers). 

Most of the comments generated have been incorrect. Nobody has been hacked, and this is not Mr. Stern’s fault.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
These spammers/hackers -often- "harvest" a real email address (not
necessarily by hacking the owner's computer/email) and use that as
the "return address" on the email.  The real scam is in the active
link(s) in the body of the email.  You can not even rely upon the text
of the link because it is -easy- to put one thing in the text that you see
and have it actually link to another place.
  Click and be damned!
  If you know Mr. Stern personally you might tell him of what we are
seeing ... but in all probability he won't find anything on his computer
or with his email provider that is involved in this.

  I'm not sure how I feel about the "warnings" several of us have
posted to this group.  Do we really need to know about it?  In all
probability by the time the warning is raised ... any one who might
have clicked on/responded to the scam has already done so.
  I'm not saying these email scams are "nothing" ... I'm just not
sure it is important to warn the rest of us about it ... ???
                                                                                           - Jim


Tim O'Connor
 


Or SPOOFED. Once a spammer gets hold of someone's address book, they can make
emails appear to come from anywhere. Just like fake caller IDs on robot phone calls. Ain't
technology great? :-P

It could be fixed, but no one can make a fortune off you by fixing it... So, it will probably
never be fixed. As Bill Gates once famously said, the worst reason to fix something is simply
because it is broken.

So called "hacking" is actually quite rare i.e. breaking into your actual machine. But almost all
email services now FORCE users to store their emails in the "cloud" - and that includes their
address books. This is the "imap" protocol which has serious security problems. Comcast
forced me to switch last year.

Tim O'Connor

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On 3/5/2021 11:20 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
I don't think it's the site, I think Mr Stern has been hacked.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply! 

Paul Doggett 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


James Brewer
 

I checked with Ray Stern; he said Microsoft advised it happened this morning from someone in Nigeria using the Chrome browser.

Jim Brewer

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:59 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Or SPOOFED. Once a spammer gets hold of someone's address book, they can make
emails appear to come from anywhere. Just like fake caller IDs on robot phone calls. Ain't
technology great? :-P

It could be fixed, but no one can make a fortune off you by fixing it... So, it will probably
never be fixed. As Bill Gates once famously said, the worst reason to fix something is simply
because it is broken.

So called "hacking" is actually quite rare i.e. breaking into your actual machine. But almost all
email services now FORCE users to store their emails in the "cloud" - and that includes their
address books. This is the "imap" protocol which has serious security problems. Comcast
forced me to switch last year.

Tim O'Connor

==========================

On 3/5/2021 11:20 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
I don't think it's the site, I think Mr Stern has been hacked.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply! 

Paul Doggett 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Paul Doggett
 

Jim 

Thank you.

Paul Doggett


On 5 Mar 2021, at 23:13, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:


I checked with Ray Stern; he said Microsoft advised it happened this morning from someone in Nigeria using the Chrome browser.

Jim Brewer

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:59 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Or SPOOFED. Once a spammer gets hold of someone's address book, they can make
emails appear to come from anywhere. Just like fake caller IDs on robot phone calls. Ain't
technology great? :-P

It could be fixed, but no one can make a fortune off you by fixing it... So, it will probably
never be fixed. As Bill Gates once famously said, the worst reason to fix something is simply
because it is broken.

So called "hacking" is actually quite rare i.e. breaking into your actual machine. But almost all
email services now FORCE users to store their emails in the "cloud" - and that includes their
address books. This is the "imap" protocol which has serious security problems. Comcast
forced me to switch last year.

Tim O'Connor

==========================

On 3/5/2021 11:20 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
I don't think it's the site, I think Mr Stern has been hacked.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:46 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hacked ?

Has the site been hacked as I got an unusual email to undisclosed recipients that was not about freight cars. A guy asking to do something urgent for him and asking to reply! 

Paul Doggett 

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts