Photo: Santa Fe Boxcars At Hills Brothers Coffee Factory (1938)
Photo: Santa Fe Boxcars At Hills Brothers Coffee Factory (1938) Photo from the OpenSFHistory website. https://opensfhistory.org/Display/wnp14.2714.jpg Caption: “View west across Embarcadero to bridge, Hills Brothers Coffee Plant with freight cars alongside.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Bob and Friends, Interesting that both Santa Fe cars are 50' auto cars. I have attached a 1949+ Sanborn map which sadly does not show the trackage. My best guess is that this was the State Belt Railroad (later San Francisco Belt Railroad) and it approached from the left (real direction south). As you can see from the photo, the Oakland Bay Bridge is somewhat beyond the Marine Corps building to the left. A current view of the buildings is enclosed. The track in the street is the Muni heritage streetcar line. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:53 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Brian Stokes
Here you go, Garth. You can see the spur coming off the State Belt main tracks from the south.
-- Brian Stokes North Point Street in Proto:48
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Brian, Thanks much. Obviously there is a lot of track missing from the Sanborn map. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 8:23 PM Brian Stokes <bstokesndp@...> wrote:
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John Barry
Bob, Those are Fe-U 50' SS Automobile cars. Within a couple years of this photo, the 500 cars had their left hand doors sealed converting them to single door box cars. When initially converted, the only external differences were removal of the "AUTOMOBILE" lettering, a new car number and class stencil. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 12:53:16 PM EDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
Photo: Santa Fe Boxcars At Hills Brothers Coffee Factory (1938) Photo from the OpenSFHistory website. https://opensfhistory.org/Display/wnp14.2714.jpg Caption: “View west across Embarcadero to bridge, Hills Brothers Coffee Plant with freight cars alongside.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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John Barry
Garth, The cars at Hills Bros are in fact on a State Belt spur served from the south as you surmised. The Santa Fe Spear St yard was behind the Marine building with a Santa Fe owned spur running on the back side of Hills Bros up Spear street. The State Belt switched all of the trackage north of China Basin, including the ATSF & SP owned tracks. Attached is the 1938 Google Earth view showing the State Belt tracks in gold and the SF in blue. Not all tracks highlighted. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 02:44:02 PM EDT, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:
Bob and Friends, Interesting that both Santa Fe cars are 50' auto cars. I have attached a 1949+ Sanborn map which sadly does not show the trackage. My best guess is that this was the State Belt Railroad (later San Francisco Belt Railroad) and it approached from the left (real direction south). As you can see from the photo, the Oakland Bay Bridge is somewhat beyond the Marine Corps building to the left. A current view of the buildings is enclosed. The track in the street is the Muni heritage streetcar line. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:53 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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