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USATC boxcars at Mt Union, PA

Jim Eager
 

Does anyone know if the original source and builder has been confirmed for the 15-16 US Army Transportation Corps 36ft single-sheathed boxcars that sat for years in the EBT yard at Mt Union PA? (Since scrapped and removed.) Several sources I found say they were ex-BAR as the outline of the BAR lettering could be seen under the peeling olive drab paint.
Jim Eager

Here is USA 22122 at Burnham PA:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41143146@N02/4127965674/in/photolist-7hLUnY-7hGX4K-fXaidU-21PKXp-21PeoZ-fXa8VK-cqC3DQ-cqC3GL-85dq19-5pRijT-21UtaQ-F3f78c-fXaiod/
Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

I was in a couple of them years ago and they had BAR and the number stenciled on the inside, too. Not that I bothered to note the numbers. I MIGHT have builder info at work... Monday.

Dennis Storzek
Jim Eager
 

Thanks Dennis, I'll check back next week.
Jim
Tim O'Connor
 


I have also heard these were ex-BAR box cars. They certainly appear to fit the bill. :-)

Tim O'Connor


On 8/13/2021 9:55 PM, Jim Eager wrote:

Does anyone know if the original source and builder has been confirmed for the 15-16 US Army Transportation Corps 36ft single-sheathed boxcars that sat for years in the EBT yard at Mt Union PA? (Since scrapped and removed.) Several sources I found say they were ex-BAR as the outline of the BAR lettering could be seen under the peeling olive drab paint.
Jim Eager


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

usax_22101 36ft_SD_box_SS exBAR_ MtUnionPA 1950s.jpg

bar_9838 36ft_SD_box_SS 1939.jpg

John Sykes III
 

I have a grab iron that "fell" off of one of them, some 30+ years ago.😉
Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:09 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
I was in a couple of them years ago and they had BAR and the number stenciled on the inside, too. Not that I bothered to note the numbers. I MIGHT have builder info at work... Monday.
Unfortunately I was wrong, I do not have builder information. All I have is BAR 9000 - 10999, 549 cars in 1930, 188 in 1957, all gone by 1959. I suspect the USATC cars in Mt. Union were part of the reduction, sold off during WWII. These USATC cars were purchased by Kovalchick Salvage, and stored in the East Broad Top (also owned by Kovalchick) Standard gauge yard in Mt. Union, PA. A couple of years ago I read a report that there were more of these cars at another Kovalchick yard someplace else in Pennsylvania, but I can't find the reference.

I do have more photos, supplied to me by Ray Breyer:



Dennis Storzek
ROGER HINMAN
 

BAR9800-9999 were built by Standard Steel at their Baltimore facility in 1921

Roger Hinman

On Aug 16, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:09 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
I was in a couple of them years ago and they had BAR and the number stenciled on the inside, too. Not that I bothered to note the numbers. I MIGHT have builder info at work... Monday.
Unfortunately I was wrong, I do not have builder information. All I have is BAR 9000 - 10999, 549 cars in 1930, 188 in 1957, all gone by 1959. I suspect the USATC cars in Mt. Union were part of the reduction, sold off during WWII. These USATC cars were purchased by Kovalchick Salvage, and stored in the East Broad Top (also owned by Kovalchick) Standard gauge yard in Mt. Union, PA. A couple of years ago I read a report that there were more of these cars at another Kovalchick yard someplace else in Pennsylvania, but I can't find the reference.

I do have more photos, supplied to me by Ray Breyer:

<BAR 10075.jpg><BAR 10045.jpg>

Dennis Storzek

Tim O'Connor
 


Cool beans, that 36 foot State of Maine car! In 1957 the entire series 10000 to 10399 was filled
with new 50 foot State of Maine box cars, so we know the 10045 didn't last much past 1956. :-)

Tim O'Connor


On 8/16/2021 2:08 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:09 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
I was in a couple of them years ago and they had BAR and the number stenciled on the inside, too. Not that I bothered to note the numbers. I MIGHT have builder info at work... Monday.
Unfortunately I was wrong, I do not have builder information. All I have is BAR 9000 - 10999, 549 cars in 1930, 188 in 1957, all gone by 1959. I suspect the USATC cars in Mt. Union were part of the reduction, sold off during WWII. These USATC cars were purchased by Kovalchick Salvage, and stored in the East Broad Top (also owned by Kovalchick) Standard gauge yard in Mt. Union, PA. A couple of years ago I read a report that there were more of these cars at another Kovalchick yard someplace else in Pennsylvania, but I can't find the reference.

I do have more photos, supplied to me by Ray Breyer:



Dennis Storzek

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

BAR 10138 50' box car.JPG

John Sykes III
 

Dennis - How about running some of these in the original BAR and the USATC markings as at Mt. Union?

-- John
Jim Eager
 

Thanks very much to Dennis and Roger. Here is more infro from Eric Neubauer's Pullman and Standard Steel Car production list book:

BAR 9800-9999 blt SSC Balt 12-21; 125 cars to USAX 22050-22174 in 1951-53

Thanks again,
Jim Eager

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