Help with truck identification
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Gentlemen, Trucks are one of my weakest areas of knowledge. Any idea what these trucks are? And what is the closest model for them HO scale.
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Fenton
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They look like some version of Barber integral journal U-section sideframes On 8/31/2021 10:43 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Nelson Moyer
They’re a variant of Andrews trucks, I don’t know is there is an exact match, but I would use Tahoe Model Works Andrews trucks.
Nelson Moyer
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Gentlemen, Trucks are one of my weakest areas of knowledge. Any idea what these trucks are? And what is the closest model for them HO scale. Thanks Fenton |
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Here is better view of the truck from the same source
I don’t think that the journal boxes are separable, so it is more likely an example of an ARA “standard” double truss spring plank truck.
This is a page from Richard Hendrickson’s MRH 2013 truck document
Having said that, the shallow arch of the top cord of the truck makes it somewhat unusual. I am not sure that I see a good matching HO truck.
Other comments are welcome.
Steve Hile
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They’re a variant of Andrews trucks, I don’t know is there is an exact match, but I would use Tahoe Model Works Andrews trucks.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Gentlemen, Trucks are one of my weakest areas of knowledge. Any idea what these trucks are? And what is the closest model for them HO scale. Thanks Fenton |
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Nelson Moyer
Thanks for the clear photo, Steve. The railhead on the other side of the car runs across the bottom of the front side frame in the original photo, making me think it was an Andrews truck.
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I agree Steve - at first I thought it might be a Vulcan but it definitely does not have the pedestal journal which would also disqualify it from being an Andrews either. Tim O'Connor On 8/31/2021 12:54 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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pennsylvania1954
Hi Fenton--There are a variety of cast steel U-section trucks available. Because of the spring plank and the open ended bolster, I would use Tahoe Model Works 106 or 206, depending on your choice of wheel width. I use these on my FGEX cars.
-- Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL |
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Thanks Steve, I have those, Appreciate your help Fenton On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 2:38 PM pennsylvania1954 <stevehprr@...> wrote: Hi Fenton--There are a variety of cast steel U-section trucks available. Because of the spring plank and the open ended bolster, I would use Tahoe Model Works 106 or 206, depending on your choice of wheel width. I use these on my FGEX cars. --
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Tony Thompson
I think you are misinterpreting the edges of the brake shoes, Nelson. These aren’t Andrews. |
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Nelson Moyer
Yes, after Steve posted the photos, I went back and looked at the original photo and realized the error. The rail on the other side of the car fooled me. It ran across the bottom of the side frame, making me think they were Andrews trucks.
Nelson Moyer
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I think you are misinterpreting the edges of the brake shoes, Nelson. These aren’t Andrews.
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James Brewer
Could they be a variation of a Crown truck? I've attached a photo of a Bowser Crown truck for comparison; I know they would not have the "bars" from the frame to the journal boxes. Jim Brewer 
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Matthew Hurst
They are a PRR design 2D-F8. The car these are under, reused a former PRR R7 reefer.
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The trucks you are looking for are what Red Caboose put with the X29 kits Matthew Hurst PRRT&HS #6799 PRRT&HS modeling committee On Aug 31, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
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Crown trucks are another type of pedestal truck - the journal box is not part of the sideframe. On 8/31/2021 7:05 PM, James Brewer wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Thanks to all who replied. Much appreciated
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Fenton On Sep 1, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Benjamin Hom
Matthew Hurst wrote: "They are a PRR design 2D-F8. The car these are under, reused a former PRR R7 reefer." No. While the underframe is repurposed from a Class R7 reefer, the trucks in question lack the characteristic droop sideframe of the 2D-F8 / ARA Type Y truck. Ben Hom |
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