Photo: Poultry Car
Photo: Poultry Car
A photo from the Stutsman Museum:
http://digitalhorizonsonline.org/digital/collection/ndshs-dm/id/432/rec/32
Use the arrows to enlarge the photo.
Caption: Car of poultry shipped from Jamestown, N.D.
Date thought to be no later than 1926.
The car name over the door is difficult to decipher. Could be EGC.
Doug Harding commented:
“A few poultry cars were in use until the very late 50s or early 60s. The last design change to poultry cars took place in the 20s, and those changes were minor when it comes to appearance. Live turkeys never traveled well, so by the early 1900s they were generally slaughtered locally and shipped frozen in reefers. Live chicken transportation moved to trucks in a big fashion after WWII, though like turkeys many were slaughtered locally and frozen. The live chicken market was mostly driven by the Jewish market, so live chicken transport was primarily to communities with large Jewish population, ie New York City, Philadelphia, etc.”
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Railway Bull Shippers Group
Photo: Poultry Car
A photo from the Stutsman Museum:
http://digitalhorizonsonline.org/digital/collection/ndshs-dm/id/432/rec/32
Use the arrows to enlarge the photo.
Caption: Car of poultry shipped from Jamestown, N.D.
Date thought to be no later than 1926.
The car name over the door is difficult to decipher. Could be EGC.
Doug Harding commented:
“A few poultry cars were in use until the very late 50s or early 60s. The last design change to poultry cars took place in the 20s, and those changes were minor when it comes to appearance. Live turkeys never traveled well, so by the early 1900s they were generally slaughtered locally and shipped frozen in reefers. Live chicken transportation moved to trucks in a big fashion after WWII, though like turkeys many were slaughtered locally and frozen. The live chicken market was mostly driven by the Jewish market, so live chicken transport was primarily to communities with large Jewish population, ie New York City, Philadelphia, etc.”
Bob Chaparro
Moderator
Railway Bull Shippers Group
https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup
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Ray Hutchison
Ah, yes, the famous EGG car. I'm intrigued enough by these cars that I have two Ambroid kits to assemble. The only hitch is that that the poultry cars had seven levels of cages (shelves for individual chicken coups, we have one in the garage), along with interior walkway, and canvas flaps that could be rolled down on the outside. Trying to determine what fabric would be best to simulate the wire on the outside of the car.
Ray Hutchison
Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.
I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.
Thin canvas or muslin curtains could be stretched over one side of the car, on the windward side, during especially inclement weather. The carman was tasked with handling the curtain.
Real measurements from the last poultry car known to exist. relational to the screen and sides:
A) The screen wire is a 1/8" diameter solid wire woven
B) The pattern is in a 1 1/2" x 1 1/2“ vertical diamond pattern
C) The "C" channel frame holding the wire screen is a 1" tall, with 1/2" legs
D) The length of the screens, (along the car) is 14'-6"
E) The screens are 11" tall
F) The gap between the screens is 3"
Doug Harding
https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8X8Yb8NEAZqbZjHT5z0sA
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 7:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Poultry Car
Ah, yes, the famous EGG car. I'm intrigued enough by these cars that I have two Ambroid kits to assemble. The only hitch is that that the poultry cars had seven levels of cages (shelves for individual chicken coups, we have one in the garage), along with interior walkway, and canvas flaps that could be rolled down on the outside. Trying to determine what fabric would be best to simulate the wire on the outside of the car.
Ray Hutchison
Elgin, IL
Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.
I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.
Ah, yes, the famous EGG car. I'm intrigued enough by these cars that I have two Ambroid kits to assemble. The only hitch is that that the poultry cars had seven levels of cages (shelves for individual chicken coups, we have one in the garage), along with interior walkway, and canvas flaps that could be rolled down on the outside. Trying to determine what fabric would be best to simulate the wire on the outside of the car.
Ray Hutchison
Tiny puffs of white cotton balls with a touch of red for the comb.
Doug Harding
https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8X8Yb8NEAZqbZjHT5z0sA
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Poultry Car
How do you model all the hens as well?
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, 13:10 Ray Hutchison, <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:
Ah, yes, the famous EGG car. I'm intrigued enough by these cars that I have two Ambroid kits to assemble. The only hitch is that that the poultry cars had seven levels of cages (shelves for individual chicken coups, we have one in the garage), along with interior walkway, and canvas flaps that could be rolled down on the outside. Trying to determine what fabric would be best to simulate the wire on the outside of the car.
Ray Hutchison
It’s a very complex car, and almost impossible to do justice to.
J. Stephen Sandifer
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Poultry Car
Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 08:10 Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:
Ah, yes, the famous EGG car. I'm intrigued enough by these cars that I have two Ambroid kits to assemble. The only hitch is that that the poultry cars had seven levels of cages (shelves for individual chicken coups, we have one in the garage), along with interior walkway, and canvas flaps that could be rolled down on the outside. Trying to determine what fabric would be best to simulate the wire on the outside of the car.
Ray Hutchison
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Are there any photos of poultry cars covered with canvas?
Ted Schnepf
Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.
I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.
Here is a photo of a car being shrouded, and the video from which I captured the photo.
Doug Harding
https://www.facebook.com/douglas.harding.3156/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK8X8Yb8NEAZqbZjHT5z0sA
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Poultry Car
Hello,
Are there any photos of poultry cars covered with canvas?
Ted Schnepf
On Sunday, February 13, 2022, 07:45:59 AM CST, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
Ray points out an aspect that may ease modeling poultry cars, especially if you model winter months. The canvas may be covering the car sides for travel in cold weather.
Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.
I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.
Hello,
Are there any photos of poultry cars covered with canvas?
Ted Schnepf
On Sunday, February 13, 2022, 07:45:59 AM CST, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:Ray points out an aspect that may ease modeling poultry cars, especially if you model winter months. The canvas may be covering the car sides for travel in cold weather.
Ray Breyer suggested using aluminum foil recently when we were discussing a covering for the stake beds on Jordan Mack trucks. The same material would be easy to try with a poultry car. Cut it to fit then spray on color with a rattle can before installing it on the model.
I model mid November so this is something I’ll keep in mind.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
> On Feb 13, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
>
> Ray: I can't make out the wire in the photo, but I will assume it was regular chicken wire. Some years ago, in Railmodel Journal, Bob Schleicher suggested tulle to simulate chain link fence, so that might work. Tulle (I believe it's pronounced "tool") is a kind of lace, and you can get it in fabric stores. Hope this helps. Bob Ellis.