Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
 Am building the Rock Island stockcar available from Rocket Express. Before attaching the body to the underframe I took an image of how I keep the wood slats at the end straight in line. Once I have the ends attached to the top and bottom of the side I use a piece of wood HO 1” x10” to provide a shelf for the floating slats to but up against. Once painted the 1” exposed is hardly seen. -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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radiodial868
Charlie, I've built maybe a dozen resin stockcar kits, but gotta ask, what's a floating slat?
-- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA |
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RJ,
Unlike many kits, where the end of the side includes some solid or rigid piece of the end to border the end of the slats, these kits apparently have sides that end with slats “free floating” at the end of the side.
Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of radiodial868 <radiodial57@...>
Charlie, I've built maybe a dozen resin stockcar kits, but gotta ask, what's a floating slat? |
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The other guys already answered your question. On the Mopac Sunshine Model, Westerfield and the Rock Express stockcar there’s no vertical surface for the horizontal wood slats to glue against. If you glue them to the end of the car you run the risk of someone picking the car up and popping the glue joint loose. By gluing the 1” x 10” inside it gives a shelf for the horizontal shapes to butt up against for extra strength. On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 10:51 AM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote: Charlie, I've built maybe a dozen resin stockcar kits, but gotta ask, what's a floating slat? --
Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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mopacfirst
Glad to see you're just ahead of me. I too have several MP (and Santa Fe and Rock) stockcars that I've started on. I did what the Westerfield instructions said and built up all the end detail first. Got some sides sanded out and just about ready for assembly.
One thing I did first, as on some others I did last year, was to spray the inside with a dirty wood color while the pieces were flat. Ron Merrick |
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Andy Carlson
Back about 25+ years ago I made my first set of patterns for a stock car--a GN 31000 series 40' car rebuilt from 40' Z-bar Pratt truss GN box cars. I was concerned that the butt joints from the stock car side boards had very little contact area with the ends. My solution was to make a 0.030" thick bulkhead, which mimicked the shape of the end, less the width of the stock car boards (X 2). The profile matched the roof shape which also added extra support to the attachment of the roof to the car body; and as a bonus, the bottom edge worked to support the body onto the under frame at the correct height. My 2nd stock car project, a WP 40' car built also from an earlier SS box car, received this same treatment. The exposed edge of these bulkheads are difficult to see as you almost have to look for them. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA |
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radiodial868
Ah, I see. The Westerfield 36' WP Stockcars dealt with the board ends by having you sand the corners at a 45 before joining to get the look. Not all the easy to do.
-- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA |
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Nelson Moyer
The Speedwitch GN stock car kit has a recess on the edges of the ends. The ends of the side slats fit into the recess, which not only provides more surface area for gluing, but solves the slat alignment problem and insures that the slats were recessed slightly at the edges of the ends. Very cleaver solution to boxing flat kits, especially stock cars.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 10:38 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Ah, I see. The Westerfield 36' WP Stockcars dealt with the board ends by having you sand the corners at a 45 before joining to get the look. Not all the easy to do.
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Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix?
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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Anything other than plastic would weigh a lot. All you really need are some cow shapes cut from card stock to keep from looking thru.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone) On Apr 2, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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These are plastic.
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
A friend used white styrofoam packing peanuts on the upper and lower decks of an On3 stockcar to simulate tightly bunched sheep. It worker surprisingly well.
Dennis Storzek |
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Nelson Moyer
Sunshine sold resin profile stock car loads, and I bought a couple of packs. After looking them, I decided not to install them because 50% of the time, they would be inappropriate, either way. I considered putting them on only one side of a car, so whether it was loaded on not depended upon side of the car faced the aisle. That would work if your track plan never reversed the car sides, but mine does. Livestock loads aren’t particular visible, and if you have a livestock load, you can’t waybill the car for any other load, e.g. pig iron, watermelons, ties, lumber, etc. during off season. Anybody want to buy some Sunshine profile livestock loads?
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 11:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix? |
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Nelson Moyer
I forgot to mention bull boards. I painted the bull boards that came in the Sunshine kits, and I plan to install them on about half of my CB&Q cars. If the car has bull boards in the brackets, it’s empty. If I has no bull boards in the brackets, it’s loaded.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 11:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix? |
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WILLIAM PARDIE
 Here are two Westerfield cars flanking a Red Caboose car. The Wesdterfield kits made up into some real nice models. Beveling the sides and ends to produce a knife sharp edge proved to be a nightmare for me. I ruined two kits before throwing in the towel and getting someone else to build the cars for me. Bill Pardie |
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Steve SANDIFER
I run mine empty. Richard Hendrickson used to put something inside as a view block. I forget exactly what, something like painted packing peanuts, to give an irregular shape if you happened to get them where you could see through the slats. Putting individual figures inside would be extremely expensive. 25 cows would not break you, but 300 sheep would!
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 11:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix? |
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Philip Dove
I once bought hundreds of pigs to put in my double deck stockcars, and realised that hard plastic pigs don't squeeze together like real flesh and blood creatures. They also added significantly to the weight. I then found lots of pictures taken at ground level of stock cropped the background cut and pasted them till l had an appropriate length herd fixed the on a transparent backing with a mirror image herd the other side and put this in the car. You can see something blocks the view but only with a flashlight and by taking the car off the track can you see they are pigs. I also trap a few wisps of fine straw coloured filament around the lower edge of the door. I know you got 34 sheep into a British cattle car with an exterior length of 18' over the body. But how many cattle fitted in a North American stockcars of a given length. Does anyone know if they made much noise once they were settled in and travelling?Anyone experimented with a scent diffuser in the cars? On Sun, 3 Apr 2022, 01:31 Steve SANDIFER, <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:
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Nelson Moyer
As the recipient of a research grant from EPA to study the distribution of human pathogens in hog waste at hog confinement facilities and their sewage lagoons, I can assure you that you do not want to play with scents. Model railroading would immediately cease to be fun.
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Philip Dove
As l understand it the gases of a sewage lagoon tend to replace the air rather than pollute it the smell from a train would merely stink🙄 -------- Original message -------- From: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022, 15:36 To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick As the recipient of a research grant from EPA to study the distribution of human pathogens in hog waste at hog confinement facilities and their sewage lagoons, I can assure you that you do not want to play with scents. Model railroading would immediately cease to be fun. |
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Todd Sullivan
IIRRC,
Richard Hendrickson used styrene 'peanuts' for animals. Light weight, squishable, and painted to whatever colors of the livestock your RR hauled. Todd Sullivan |
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