Fw: Three dome tank car
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Ted Schnepf
Hello, This three dome tank car showed up trailing a steam loco, the main reason for the image. I can make out the word Rose, Maybe White Rose? The photo was taken after 1938, but can't find White Rose in the ORER. What is the company name and what reporting marks did they use? Any ideas on the builder of the 3 dome tank? All the domes appear to be the same size. Ted Schnepf Elgin, Ill. 60120 ----- Forwarded Message ----- |
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White Rose was a gasoline trade name used by the National Refining Company. They had some sort of relationship with Peerless Tank Lines. In a 1938 ORER National Refining Company tank cars are listed as formerly Peerless and carrying PTLX markings. There are no details of the sizes or configurations of the cars in the fleet. However is you go back to the 1919 tariff you can find that PTLX had a few 3 compartment cars with a total capacity of about 8xxx gallons.
Someone with the full 1936 tariff could confirm whether these were still around.
Hope this helps to trigger some other thoughts.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 10:39 AM To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Fw: Three dome tank car
Hello,
This three dome tank car showed up trailing a steam loco, the main reason for the image. I can make out the word Rose, Maybe White Rose?
The photo was taken after 1938, but can't find White Rose in the ORER. What is the company name and what reporting marks did they use? Any ideas on the builder of the 3 dome tank? All the domes appear to be the same size.
Ted Schnepf Elgin, Ill. 60120
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: ted schnepf <railsunl@...> To: ted schnepf <railsunl@...> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022, 09:04:29 AM CDT Subject: Three dome tank car
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It appears to be a non-insulated tank car. Am I right to assume this means the car would be used for vinegar rather than table wine? On 4/23/2022 11:39 AM, Ted Schnepf wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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As Steve says, White Rose was a brand of gasoline for National Refining. I photos of their trucks, but not their tank cars.
A white Rose road side neon sign still stands in Menlo IA. https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/41374
K4 offers decals for Peerless cars with White Rose lettering https://k4decals.com/products/peerless-tank-line-early-wood-frame-tank-car-white-decal-ptl And Walthers at one time had decals with large White Rose lettering https://www.ebay.com/itm/401800259126
Doug Harding
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Fw: Three dome tank car
White Rose was a gasoline trade name used by the National Refining Company. They had some sort of relationship with Peerless Tank Lines. In a 1938 ORER National Refining Company tank cars are listed as formerly Peerless and carrying PTLX markings. There are no details of the sizes or configurations of the cars in the fleet. However is you go back to the 1919 tariff you can find that PTLX had a few 3 compartment cars with a total capacity of about 8xxx gallons.
Someone with the full 1936 tariff could confirm whether these were still around.
Hope this helps to trigger some other thoughts.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf
Hello,
This three dome tank car showed up trailing a steam loco, the main reason for the image. I can make out the word Rose, Maybe White Rose?
The photo was taken after 1938, but can't find White Rose in the ORER. What is the company name and what reporting marks did they use? Any ideas on the builder of the 3 dome tank? All the domes appear to be the same size.
Ted Schnepf Elgin, Ill. 60120
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: ted schnepf <railsunl@...> To: ted schnepf <railsunl@...> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022, 09:04:29 AM CDT Subject: Three dome tank car
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David
The 1936 tariff shows four 3-dome nominal 8000g cars (PTLX 1474,1482,1492,1494), ten around 7300g (7811-7820) and seven just under 7400g (7824-7830). There are also some smaller 3-dome tanks, and four cars around 8350 gallons with 68-gallon domes (1493,1495,1497,8006).
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Richard McQuade
White Rose gasoline was well known in southern Ontario and I certainly remember their gas stations. Shell bought them out here in 1962.This article from Wikipedia helps to explain the history of it in Canada. Some of those White Rose tank cars might very well have wandered up here on occasion but I've never looked into any of that.
Canadian Oil Companies - Wikipedia Richard |
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