Rapido X31A


Charlie Duckworth
 

Michael Gross and I were exchanging emails on weathering with watercolor pencils and I bought a few at Art Mart while I was in St Louis this past week. There several videos on YouTube on how the military modelers use them for scratches, water streaks, rust, etc.  So no need to repeat their methods here but I tried them out today on a Rapido X31A and enjoyed the exercise.  One improvement is if you overdo it a quick pass with a damp Q-Tip removes all sins.  Besides using the watercolor pencils I used regular colored pencils to add some light and dark spots to the panels.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Robert kirkham
 

Are these repainted models? The faded colour looks great, as does the weathering.
Rob

On Apr 25, 2022, at 7:12 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

<4E8033E0-C740-492B-9B0D-5839921F9E70.jpeg><5FFC91FE-FF4A-4B1B-8FA7-C807F3F7F597.jpeg>Michael Gross and I were exchanging emails on weathering with watercolor pencils and I bought a few at Art Mart while I was in St Louis this past week. There several videos on YouTube on how the military modelers use them for scratches, water streaks, rust, etc.  So no need to repeat their methods here but I tried them out today on a Rapido X31A and enjoyed the exercise.  One improvement is if you overdo it a quick pass with a damp Q-Tip removes all sins.  Besides using the watercolor pencils I used regular colored pencils to add some light and dark spots to the panels.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Paul Doggett
 

Charlie 

That looks really nice.

Paul Doggett 


On 26 Apr 2022, at 03:12, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

4E8033E0-C740-492B-9B0D-5839921F9E70.jpeg5FFC91FE-FF4A-4B1B-8FA7-C807F3F7F597.jpegMichael Gross and I were exchanging emails on weathering with watercolor pencils and I bought a few at Art Mart while I was in St Louis this past week. There several videos on YouTube on how the military modelers use them for scratches, water streaks, rust, etc.  So no need to repeat their methods here but I tried them out today on a Rapido X31A and enjoyed the exercise.  One improvement is if you overdo it a quick pass with a damp Q-Tip removes all sins.  Besides using the watercolor pencils I used regular colored pencils to add some light and dark spots to the panels.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Charlie Duckworth
 

Factory paint with Dullcote mixed with a few drops of tan to fade the paint.  I need to update the light weight date and location and add a repack stencil. 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Tim O'Connor
 


what brand of pencils did you buy? I don't recall hearing about these before.

Fine job on that car! I especially like the tack boards. :-)

On 4/25/2022 10:12 PM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:

Michael Gross and I were exchanging emails on weathering with watercolor pencils and I bought a few at Art Mart while I was in St Louis this past week. There several videos on YouTube on how the military modelers use them for scratches, water streaks, rust, etc.  So no need to repeat their methods here but I tried them out today on a Rapido X31A and enjoyed the exercise.  One improvement is if you overdo it a quick pass with a damp Q-Tip removes all sins.  Besides using the watercolor pencils I used regular colored pencils to add some light and dark spots to the panels.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


mrvant@rogers.com
 

AK Interactive makes a range of them specifically for weathering. There are about 40 colours in the full range but you can buy the individual colours or smaller sets for specific applications. Usually found in hobby shops catering to military modellers. I’ve used them for weathering details on cars, but also structures. AK has some good videos online showing how to use them, wet or dry.

The weathering job looks great!

Malcolm Vant
Ottawa, On


Eric Hansmann
 

Super work here, Charlie! Thank you for sharing. I like the raw wood appearance of the tack boards. Paint seems to fail on those pretty early.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 9:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31A

 

Michael Gross and I were exchanging emails on weathering with watercolor pencils and I bought a few at Art Mart while I was in St Louis this past week. There several videos on YouTube on how the military modelers use them for scratches, water streaks, rust, etc.  So no need to repeat their methods here but I tried them out today on a Rapido X31A and enjoyed the exercise.  One improvement is if you overdo it a quick pass with a damp Q-Tip removes all sins.  Besides using the watercolor pencils I used regular colored pencils to add some light and dark spots to the panels.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Charlie Duckworth
 

Tim
I bought a German brand ‘Faber Castell’ due to the selection of earth colors they had in stock.  

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Charlie has become my Weathering Hero and I fear that I could never be the artist that he is.  I do try with a variety if products. I bought some of the AK pencils and looked at the videos.  My impression is that these are used for a specific stain, spill or rust spot.  I feel that an over spray of dust and diluted car color is needed for the overall effect.  Am I on the right track?

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: mrvant@...
Date: 4/26/22 4:17 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31A

AK Interactive makes a range of them specifically for weathering. There are about 40 colours in the full range but you can buy the individual colours or smaller sets for specific applications. Usually found in hobby shops catering to military modellers. I’ve used them for weathering details on cars, but also structures. AK has some good videos online showing how to use them, wet or dry.

The weathering job looks great!

Malcolm Vant
Ottawa, On


Charlie Duckworth
 

Bill
Thanks for the compliment; a little background is warranted.  I did major in Art in college and minored in history.  Having an art degree meant to my father I needed a ‘real’ income and he got me a job working on a Mopac tie gang in western Kansas as I’d intended to go back and get a masters degree.  I quickly learned what end of a spike maul to use, how to run a tie crane and was the assistant Foreman in a few months as most of the gang was bidding on  gangs closer to home.  The assistant Foreman job was a blast as I took a little Fairmont motorcar to the job site every morning to put out our red and green boards to indicate to the train crews where we were working (they also had a train order indicating the mile poles where we were as well).  Dad mentioned one weekend our IT department was hiring so I moved into management and was transferred to Ft Worth on the T&P (no more school for me).  38 years and 20+ different management positions I retired 10 years ago.  

I’d always built models since I was a preteen  (aircraft and armor) and got into model railroading in my late 20’s.  Weathering was just an airbrush technique when I started.  I then started seeing what the armor modelers were doing with filters, pin washes, pencils, etc and started applying the same techniques to my HO freight cars.  To me, what we have as an advantage over the armor modelers is their tanks probably didn’t last over a few campaigns.  Our freight cars lasted for decades meaning we have all kinds of choices with fading of paint, paint loss, rust, etc.  Making for interesting consists or a cut of cars at a siding.   

There’s lots of YouTube videos out there on armor weathering that are worth viewing.  But be careful you might end up with a T-34 or Sherman on your workbench!  

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:56 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:
Charlie has become my Weathering Hero and I fear that I could never be the artist that he is.  I do try with a variety if products. I bought some of the AK pencils and looked at the videos.  My impression is that these are used for a specific stain, spill or rust spot.  I feel that an over spray of dust and diluted car color is needed for the overall effect.  Am I on the right track?

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: mrvant@...
Date: 4/26/22 4:17 AM (GMT-10:00)
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31A

AK Interactive makes a range of them specifically for weathering. There are about 40 colours in the full range but you can buy the individual colours or smaller sets for specific applications. Usually found in hobby shops catering to military modellers. I’ve used them for weathering details on cars, but also structures. AK has some good videos online showing how to use them, wet or dry.

The weathering job looks great!

Malcolm Vant
Ottawa, On


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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Michael Gross
 

Looking lovely, Charlie.  You've got the magic touch!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


gtws00
 

Great job on the weathering!
George Toman


Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for sharing your background, Charlie. Your art degree has been a great tool for your modeling!

 

A few years ago, I purchased a color wheel. After reading all the info on both sides of the wheel, I was amazed. I also wish I had bought a color wheel a few decades ago. Here’s a short review on using a color wheel.

https://youtu.be/DfKx7MjSEK0

 

My last art class was about 45 years ago and forgotten. I added the color wheel to my tool box and it’s been instrumental to mix paint for freight car models. At some point, I hope to enroll in an intro to art class at a community college so I can understand more about color, tints, and shades. A color wheel scratches the surface of possibilities.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 1:48 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31A

 

Bill

Thanks for the compliment; a little background is warranted.  I did major in Art in college and minored in history.  Having an art degree meant to my father I needed a ‘real’ income and he got me a job working on a Mopac tie gang in western Kansas as I’d intended to go back and get a masters degree.  I quickly learned what end of a spike maul to use, how to run a tie crane and was the assistant Foreman in a few months as most of the gang was bidding on  gangs closer to home.  The assistant Foreman job was a blast as I took a little Fairmont motorcar to the job site every morning to put out our red and green boards to indicate to the train crews where we were working (they also had a train order indicating the mile poles where we were as well).  Dad mentioned one weekend our IT department was hiring so I moved into management and was transferred to Ft Worth on the T&P (no more school for me).  38 years and 20+ different management positions I retired 10 years ago.  

 

I’d always built models since I was a preteen  (aircraft and armor) and got into model railroading in my late 20’s.  Weathering was just an airbrush technique when I started.  I then started seeing what the armor modelers were doing with filters, pin washes, pencils, etc and started applying the same techniques to my HO freight cars.  To me, what we have as an advantage over the armor modelers is their tanks probably didn’t last over a few campaigns.  Our freight cars lasted for decades meaning we have all kinds of choices with fading of paint, paint loss, rust, etc.  Making for interesting consists or a cut of cars at a siding.   

 

There’s lots of YouTube videos out there on armor weathering that are worth viewing.  But be careful you might end up with a T-34 or Sherman on your workbench!  

 


Tim O'Connor
 


Way back when I learned that PRR "DGLE" was just a black & yellow mixture, which she points out in the video
makes "green". And this is also how Pullman Green and other green colors are made, just by varying the proportion
of yellow. I've never bought a color wheel but now I may - a very useful tool !

Tim O'Connor

On 4/27/2022 10:24 AM, Eric Hansmann wrote:

Thanks for sharing your background, Charlie. Your art degree has been a great tool for your modeling!

 

A few years ago, I purchased a color wheel. After reading all the info on both sides of the wheel, I was amazed. I also wish I had bought a color wheel a few decades ago. Here’s a short review on using a color wheel.

https://youtu.be/DfKx7MjSEK0

 

My last art class was about 45 years ago and forgotten. I added the color wheel to my tool box and it’s been instrumental to mix paint for freight car models. At some point, I hope to enroll in an intro to art class at a community college so I can understand more about color, tints, and shades. A color wheel scratches the surface of possibilities.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 1:48 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido X31A

 

Bill

Thanks for the compliment; a little background is warranted.  I did major in Art in college and minored in history.  Having an art degree meant to my father I needed a ‘real’ income and he got me a job working on a Mopac tie gang in western Kansas as I’d intended to go back and get a masters degree.  I quickly learned what end of a spike maul to use, how to run a tie crane and was the assistant Foreman in a few months as most of the gang was bidding on  gangs closer to home.  The assistant Foreman job was a blast as I took a little Fairmont motorcar to the job site every morning to put out our red and green boards to indicate to the train crews where we were working (they also had a train order indicating the mile poles where we were as well).  Dad mentioned one weekend our IT department was hiring so I moved into management and was transferred to Ft Worth on the T&P (no more school for me).  38 years and 20+ different management positions I retired 10 years ago.  

 

I’d always built models since I was a preteen  (aircraft and armor) and got into model railroading in my late 20’s.  Weathering was just an airbrush technique when I started.  I then started seeing what the armor modelers were doing with filters, pin washes, pencils, etc and started applying the same techniques to my HO freight cars.  To me, what we have as an advantage over the armor modelers is their tanks probably didn’t last over a few campaigns.  Our freight cars lasted for decades meaning we have all kinds of choices with fading of paint, paint loss, rust, etc.  Making for interesting consists or a cut of cars at a siding.   

 

There’s lots of YouTube videos out there on armor weathering that are worth viewing.  But be careful you might end up with a T-34 or Sherman on your workbench! 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts