WRX 9000


lrkdbn
 

I recall ca.1979 seeing two of these WRX cars at the then Farmer Jack grocery warehouse at C&O/PM Oak Yard in Detroit,along with an original USRA DS box in company service. I thought at the time, not bad for a then 60
year old underframe design to see three of them at once.
Larry King


Richard Townsend
 

Bill Parks, that’s very helpful. I had a hard time imagining loading dried blood through roof hatches since it normally would be bagged. Not to mention unloading a car full of loose powder.


On May 27, 2022, at 8:06 AM, Richard Townsend <richtownsend@...> wrote:

So the one I was referring to was a rebuilt, ex-DT&I USRA double sheathed boxcar. That’s helpful.


On May 27, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Andy

Thanks I was somewhat suspicious of the description of the cars as reefer rebuilds, since they look
so much like the DT&I cars! :-)


On 5/27/2022 8:45 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:
Tim,

Give this page a look (check the line "ORER Notes" under each listing for special equipment and features):
http://www.greenbayroute.com/orerdetail.htm#WRX9000RS 

WRX put cars in dried blood service in later years (rebuilt ex-DT&I 11500-11799 steel plug-door RB's), but I am not aware of any 1929-built WRX wood-sided cars that had hatches.

Andy L.
Madison WI

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts dti_19131 40ft_PD_box USRA rebuild 1958.jpglovx_949 40ft_PD_box RB exDTI_ rebuild USRA DS XM AmericanColloidCompany overhead-view.jpg


Richard Townsend
 

So the one I was referring to was a rebuilt, ex-DT&I USRA double sheathed boxcar. That’s helpful.


On May 27, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Andy

Thanks I was somewhat suspicious of the description of the cars as reefer rebuilds, since they look
so much like the DT&I cars! :-)


On 5/27/2022 8:45 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:
Tim,

Give this page a look (check the line "ORER Notes" under each listing for special equipment and features):
http://www.greenbayroute.com/orerdetail.htm#WRX9000RS 

WRX put cars in dried blood service in later years (rebuilt ex-DT&I 11500-11799 steel plug-door RB's), but I am not aware of any 1929-built WRX wood-sided cars that had hatches.

Andy L.
Madison WI

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts dti_19131 40ft_PD_box USRA rebuild 1958.jpglovx_949 40ft_PD_box RB exDTI_ rebuild USRA DS XM AmericanColloidCompany overhead-view.jpg


Tim O'Connor
 

Andy

Thanks I was somewhat suspicious of the description of the cars as reefer rebuilds, since they look
so much like the DT&I cars! :-)


On 5/27/2022 8:45 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:
Tim,

Give this page a look (check the line "ORER Notes" under each listing for special equipment and features):
http://www.greenbayroute.com/orerdetail.htm#WRX9000RS 

WRX put cars in dried blood service in later years (rebuilt ex-DT&I 11500-11799 steel plug-door RB's), but I am not aware of any 1929-built WRX wood-sided cars that had hatches.

Andy L.
Madison WI

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Bill Parks
 

The photo in Green's book is after the rebuild from an overhead bunker reefer, to a bunkerless reefer, and the car no longer had any ice bunkers or hatches.  The caption is wrong.  Instead of say "it has eight ice hatches", it should say "it had eight ice hatches", as there are no hatches on the car at the time of that photo.  I think what you are seeing as "hatches" is just rust and discoloring of those panels (weathering).

The caption also mentions that given that the sliding plug door goes all the way to the roof, that the overhead bunkers weren't in use.  In reality, they probably weren't even there having been removed during the rebuild.

--
Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida


Andy Laurent
 

Tim,

Give this page a look (check the line "ORER Notes" under each listing for special equipment and features):
http://www.greenbayroute.com/orerdetail.htm#WRX9000RS 

WRX put cars in dried blood service in later years (rebuilt ex-DT&I 11500-11799 steel plug-door RB's), but I am not aware of any 1929-built WRX wood-sided cars that had hatches.

Andy L.
Madison WI


Richard Townsend
 

Thanks for the photo, but it's not the same car. The WRX 9000 had steel sides after rebuilding. It looks like Western Refrigerator just lumped all their reefers into one number series (9000-9999) regardless of design and, apparently, function. WRX 9000 may even have been a one-off.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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And now, with attachment :-[

On 5/26/2022 8:23 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

They were bunkerless reefers - RB - also sometimes known as insulated box cars

I've never seen a roof view but there may be something up there, like in this view (attached).
I don't know if they are "hatches" (access ports?) or even if they are all alike.

Why would an RB have hatches ? Something's odd. Did these cars have internal storage tanks?
(Like the Linde cars, which had insulated tanks and hatches in the roof. But those were XT.)

Dried Blood. How is that shipped?

On 5/26/2022 7:32 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io wrote:
On page 122 of Gene Green's reefer color guide there is a photo of WRX 9000, rebuilt in 1954 from a 1936 reefer. The caption says it has eight ice hatches and if I squint I might be able to see them (second roof panel in from each end, and then sixth roof panel in). It also appears to have a radial roof. I'd like to learn more about this car and I'm looking for any measured drawings, diagrams, and other information about the car. 

Richard Townsend

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Tim O'Connor
 


And now, with attachment :-[

On 5/26/2022 8:23 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

They were bunkerless reefers - RB - also sometimes known as insulated box cars

I've never seen a roof view but there may be something up there, like in this view (attached).
I don't know if they are "hatches" (access ports?) or even if they are all alike.

Why would an RB have hatches ? Something's odd. Did these cars have internal storage tanks?
(Like the Linde cars, which had insulated tanks and hatches in the roof. But those were XT.)

Dried Blood. How is that shipped?

On 5/26/2022 7:32 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io wrote:
On page 122 of Gene Green's reefer color guide there is a photo of WRX 9000, rebuilt in 1954 from a 1936 reefer. The caption says it has eight ice hatches and if I squint I might be able to see them (second roof panel in from each end, and then sixth roof panel in). It also appears to have a radial roof. I'd like to learn more about this car and I'm looking for any measured drawings, diagrams, and other information about the car. 

Richard Townsend

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Tim O'Connor
 


They were bunkerless reefers - RB - also sometimes known as insulated box cars

I've never seen a roof view but there may be something up there, like in this view (attached).
I don't know if they are "hatches" (access ports?) or even if they are all alike.

Why would an RB have hatches ? Something's odd. Did these cars have internal storage tanks?
(Like the Linde cars, which had insulated tanks and hatches in the roof. But those were XT.)

Dried Blood. How is that shipped?

On 5/26/2022 7:32 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io wrote:
On page 122 of Gene Green's reefer color guide there is a photo of WRX 9000, rebuilt in 1954 from a 1936 reefer. The caption says it has eight ice hatches and if I squint I might be able to see them (second roof panel in from each end, and then sixth roof panel in). It also appears to have a radial roof. I'd like to learn more about this car and I'm looking for any measured drawings, diagrams, and other information about the car. 

Richard Townsend

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Richard Townsend
 

On page 122 of Gene Green's reefer color guide there is a photo of WRX 9000, rebuilt in 1954 from a 1936 reefer. The caption says it has eight ice hatches and if I squint I might be able to see them (second roof panel in from each end, and then sixth roof panel in). It also appears to have a radial roof. I'd like to learn more about this car and I'm looking for any measured drawings, diagrams, and other information about the car. 

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR