Need help with Canadian Tank Cars
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bn2204
I'm currently on a mission to add more Canadian freightcars to my roster as I need to fill out BN trains 381 (Butte-Great Falls-Sweetgrass/Coutts, AB), and train 382 (Sweetgrass/Coutts, AB-Great Falls-Butte) with more Canadian cars.
Looking over an article by Russ Pinchbeck in the July 2002 RMC, Russ describes how to mesh a Type 27 Intermountain underframe with a Tichy USRA tank car body to come up with a Canadian Car & Foundry War Emergency, 10,000g tank car. Here's the roster info supplied by Russ... CGTX 1600-1699, blt. June 1943, without heater pipes CGTX 1700-1799, blt. Sept. 1943, with heater pipes CGTX 1800-1914, blt. June 1947 CNOX 8000-8053, blt. May 1948, withheater pipes CN 990895-990969, blt. Nov. 1949, with heater pipes SLAX 49101-49104, blt. Oct.1949. with heater pipes Looking through John Riddell's "Canadian Railways Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment ", there are photos of CGTX 1772, and CGTX 1776 taken in March 1982, and Oct 1975 respectively which are candidates to be modeled. John Riddell also has a picture of CGTX 2668, (former BAOX cars?) taken in Nov. 1981, which is also a 10,000g tank car that appears to be a match for the Tichy tank car body. The only difference that I can make out are the bolsters, and the ladder/running boards, and possibly the dome. Can anyone shed more light on CGTX 2600-2692? Unfortunately, Ian Cranstone's site appears to illustrate an earlier buikt car. http://www.nakina.net/photos/cgtx/cgtx002623.jpg Darrall Swift - LaGrange, Ohio Modeling the BN/MILW in North Central Montana, Great Falls to Shelby, Circa: August-September 1979 |
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Tony Thompson
If you model BN, you are on the wrong list. That’s a decade in the future for this list.
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bn2204
Yes Tony...I model the BN, but I'm not on the wrong list as the cars were built in the 1940's which makes them appropriate for this list.
Thanks, Darrall Swift, LaGrange Ohio Modeling the BN/MILW in North Central Montana, Great Falls to Shelby, Circa: August-September 1979 |
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Marc Simpson
While there aren't any of the series you are looking for, the Canadian Freight Car Gallery has a couple of CGTX car photos in some of the series you list: I'll see if I have any photos of these number series in my collection. As well it would be unlikely that you would see the CN 990895-990969 series as these were generally company service cars that stayed on CN rails. I haven't seen any photos of them away from CN trackage, but I suppose there is always going to be an exception. I have a few of these cars late in their careers at various engine terminals in waste oil or fuel service. Marc Simpson |
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Brian Stokes
Darrall,
Nice to see another Coutts/Sweetgrass modeller. My first real prototype-based layout was Shelby to Coutts ca. 1965. Have you looked at the traffic patterns through this interchange in your era? I'm always curious about the petroleum sector and what products might flow across the border as I know domestic production followed very specific patterns. What type of tank cars would you see there? The Hindsight2020 series of online RPM has had a couple of very good presentations lately on British American tank car modelling that you might also find interesting and useful. Cheers, -- Brian Stokes North Point Street in Proto:48 |
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Ian Cranstone
Darrall has found one of the pages on my website that clearly needs some updating, specifically the CGTX listing. I have much better information now on the BAOX fleet integration into CGTX, and know what one of my next projects will be. So, while I work on that, I can offer a more detailed view on my British-American Oil Company page (http://nakina.net/private/baox.html)... scroll down to BAOX 626-633 (later CGTX 2664-2671), which first appeared in the July 1943 ORER. Although I imply they were second-hand there, I am now of the view that these cars were built new, likely at about the same time as the CGTX cars. There is also a poor photo of BAOX 633 there (likely taken in Ottawa, Ontario during the 1950s). I also now suspect that BAOX 640-642 and 643-645 were likely also built new, but unfortunately have no photos. You can also get a much better breakdown of the CGTX 2600-2692 series if you're willing to wade through the notes in the BAOX web page. Ian Cranstone On 2022-07-14 16:09, bn2204 via groups.io wrote:
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Michael Rozeboom
On 2022-07-14 8:20 p.m., Ian Cranstone
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There was a presentation on the BA tank car fleet at the recent Bytown Express NMRA/NFR Convention. The presentation, as well as the others, can be found on YouTube. A Pragmatic Approach to the British American Tank Car Fleet Bytown Express Convention videos --
Michael Rozeboom Team Amiga |
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