Red Caboose killer-was McKean-Accurail box car (


Andy Carlson
 

Bill told me that the economic hit the on-the-ropes Red Caboose got was from the money spent upgrading the former Front Range 40' box cars. The sales were way below expectations and I would wager that parts for these cars still lanquish in Intermountain's storage. Can't blame all of RC's problems on the FR boxcars though, a lot of the blame falls onto the 57' mechanical PFE Reefer, the R-70-15. Nice car with truck problems, this project was a bullet to the heart for RC.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 11:16:29 AM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Rich

Yet ANOTHER way is to use the much improved Front Range 4070 box car kits from Red Caboose,
kit # RC-8700. These have vastly improved roofs, doors, underframes, ladders, you name it. The tooling is
now owned by Intermountain, but I don't know if they still offer these fine box car models. :-)



On 7/17/2022 1:27 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Another way of building the 3000-3499 series is using the Front Range 4070 boxcar kits.  These also had an 8’ door, resulting in narrower panels.  As Andy said, putting an 8’ and 7’ door on the McKean/Accurail car results in narrow side panels on either side of the doors.

 

Rich Remiarz



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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Tim O'Connor
 

Andy

OMG it wasn't the trucks so much as the wheel sets! I'm fairly sure those also were a Front Range
legacy, since I have some Front Range kits with those horrible metal wheel trucks (which were in a
small "kit" package in the car kit that you had to assemble - or just throw out).

However, the box cars were followed by the coil gondolas (STMFC folks may be unaware) which
were fabulous models, and sold very well as far as I know. Also didn't the Red Caboose Harriman
stock cars come out after the box cars as well?

I think Bill went to work for Intermountain so I guess it all worked out in the end. :-)

Tim

On 7/17/2022 5:08 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:

Bill told me that the economic hit the on-the-ropes Red Caboose got was from the money spent upgrading the former Front Range 40' box cars. The sales were way below expectations and I would wager that parts for these cars still lanquish in Intermountain's storage. Can't blame all of RC's problems on the FR boxcars though, a lot of the blame falls onto the 57' mechanical PFE Reefer, the R-70-15. Nice car with truck problems, this project was a bullet to the heart for RC.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 11:16:29 AM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Rich

Yet ANOTHER way is to use the much improved Front Range 4070 box car kits from Red Caboose,
kit # RC-8700. These have vastly improved roofs, doors, underframes, ladders, you name it. The tooling is
now owned by Intermountain, but I don't know if they still offer these fine box car models. :-)



On 7/17/2022 1:27 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Another way of building the 3000-3499 series is using the Front Range 4070 boxcar kits.  These also had an 8’ door, resulting in narrower panels.  As Andy said, putting an 8’ and 7’ door on the McKean/Accurail car results in narrow side panels on either side of the doors.

 

Rich Remiarz



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Andy Carlson
 

Bill did not own Red Caboose. He ran it for a non-involved owner whose directions to Bill was simply "don't lose money". When that rule came across these losses RC was bleeding, the decision to cut bait resulted in the sell of RC to Intermountain. Bill went to work for awhile as a sales person at IM until his decision to retire and move to Crescent City, CA.

It was hot today, 97 degrees I am told. I spent most of the day indoors, other than the earlier bike ride to the farmers market, done before it got too hot.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 03:24:13 PM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Andy

OMG it wasn't the trucks so much as the wheel sets! I'm fairly sure those also were a Front Range
legacy, since I have some Front Range kits with those horrible metal wheel trucks (which were in a
small "kit" package in the car kit that you had to assemble - or just throw out).

However, the box cars were followed by the coil gondolas (STMFC folks may be unaware) which
were fabulous models, and sold very well as far as I know. Also didn't the Red Caboose Harriman
stock cars come out after the box cars as well?

I think Bill went to work for Intermountain so I guess it all worked out in the end. :-)

Tim

On 7/17/2022 5:08 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
Bill told me that the economic hit the on-the-ropes Red Caboose got was from the money spent upgrading the former Front Range 40' box cars. The sales were way below expectations and I would wager that parts for these cars still lanquish in Intermountain's storage. Can't blame all of RC's problems on the FR boxcars though, a lot of the blame falls onto the 57' mechanical PFE Reefer, the R-70-15. Nice car with truck problems, this project was a bullet to the heart for RC.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 11:16:29 AM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Rich

Yet ANOTHER way is to use the much improved Front Range 4070 box car kits from Red Caboose,
kit # RC-8700. These have vastly improved roofs, doors, underframes, ladders, you name it. The tooling is
now owned by Intermountain, but I don't know if they still offer these fine box car models. :-)



On 7/17/2022 1:27 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:

Another way of building the 3000-3499 series is using the Front Range 4070 boxcar kits.  These also had an 8’ door, resulting in narrower panels.  As Andy said, putting an 8’ and 7’ door on the McKean/Accurail car results in narrow side panels on either side of the doors.

 

Rich Remiarz



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts