PRR & NYC double door boxcar models?
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Jim Pattison
Hi, are there any good (accurate) plastic models of 50’ or 40’ double door boxcars (automobile cars) for the PRR and the NYC? I’ll appreciate any and all advice. Thanks Jim Pattison
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Plastic. Maybe, depending on your opinion of the bowser PRR x31, x32, and x33 family of cars.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 22, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Jim Pattison <jim@...> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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Jim, for NYC look at Ted Culotta's Prototype Modeler Vol 4 it has a great article on bashing NYC 50 boxcars. I'm sure there are many more for both PRR and NYC but that one stands out to me Fenton
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 12:51 PM Jim Pattison <jim@...> wrote:
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Jim Pattison
Brian, I don’t know enough about the Bowser cars to have an opinion. What is yours? Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Plastic. Maybe, depending on your opinion of the bowser PRR x31, x32, and x33 family of cars. Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 22, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Jim Pattison
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Benjamin Hom
Jim Pattison asked: "...are there any good (accurate) plastic models of 50’ or 40’ double door boxcars (automobile cars) for the PRR and the NYC?" What scale? Ben Hom
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Jim Pattison
Fenton, thanks for that. Know of a source for that book? Speedwitch shows it as out of stock and isn’t on eBay either. Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Jim, for NYC look at Ted Culotta's Prototype Modeler Vol 4 it has a great article on bashing NYC 50 boxcars. I'm sure there are many more for both PRR and NYC but that one stands out to me Fenton
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 12:51 PM Jim Pattison <jim@...>
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-- Fenton Wells Pinehurst
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Jim Pattison
Good point. HO scale
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Jim Pattison asked: "...are there any good (accurate) plastic models of 50’ or 40’ double door boxcars (automobile cars) for the PRR and the NYC?"
What scale?
Ben Hom
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Not right now but you may try on e Bay or ask on HO swap for someone who wants to sell a copy. The way they are bound I'm not sure I could copy and scan without messing my copy up. Fenton Fenton
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 1:14 PM Jim Pattison <jim@...> wrote:
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Bowser. To me they have shortcomings in the underframe and cast on details but with a little work they are acceptable. Now a double door X31a I would use Rapido but X31, X31b, X31c, X31d, and x31f, you can start with bowser.
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From the X32 and X33 bowser is the only plastic starting point. Oh and most bowsers need new paint. Lee used a west rd shape of FCC for a while and the lettering was off. Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 22, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Jim Pattison <jim@S was.net> wrote:
-- Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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Todd Sullivan
Jim,
Bowser has both 50 ft and 40 ft double door autoboxes for the PRR. It's just that they have molded on ladders and grabs, but they are pretty accurate. Rapido is doing or has done the 40ft version (X31A), and F&C has the more modern X37A. The NYC seemed to walk to the beat of their own drummer. Sunshine did a neat NYC 40ft DD rebuild, and Ted Culota has written up how to build NYC singe door 50footers, but that's about all I can recall, other than Westerfield's 'USRA' early all steel 40ft door and a half cars. Todd Sullivan
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The Bowser X31abkits are reasonably cheap and can be upgraded with a little effort. Don't forget Rapido's excellent RTR version of the same car. (Rapido on the right modified Bowser on the left)
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Jim Pattison
Todd, thanks for the info. I think I can replace grabs and maybe doors so Boweser sounds good to me. On the NYC what about the Proto 2000 like this one on eBay? https://www.ebay.com/itm/401750818724?hash=item5d8a36ffa4:g:jvoAAOSwdzVXq0tI Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Jim,
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Jim Pattison
Brain, that is good info, thank you Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Bowser. To me they have shortcomings in the underframe and cast on details but with a little work they are acceptable. Now a double door X31a I would use Rapido but X31, X31b, X31c, X31d, and x31f, you can start with bowser.
From the X32 and X33 bowser is the only plastic starting point.
Oh and most bowsers need new paint. Lee used a west rd shape of FCC for a while and the lettering was off.
Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 22, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Jim Pattison <jim@S
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Jim Pattison
Bob, thanks for the good info. Not sure I want to spend enough to get a Rapido so it looks like Bowser and a sharp Exacto blade for me. Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Allan via groups.io
[Edited Message Follows] The
Bowser X31abkits are reasonably cheap and can be upgraded with a little
effort. Don't forget Rapido's excellent RTR version of the same car.
(Rapido on the right modified Bowser on the left)
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Jim Pattison
Fenton, thanks. I’ll keep my eye open. Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Not right now but you may try on e Bay or ask on HO swap for someone who wants to sell a copy. The way they are bound I'm not sure I could copy and scan without messing my copy up. Fenton Fenton
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 1:14 PM Jim Pattison <jim@...> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells Pinehurst
NC 28374
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mopacfirst
If you can find them, Branchline did several NYC cars in the Blueprint line with the Despatch-built distinctive ends and roof panels. Not sure how many paint schemes they were offered in, but there were both a single-door and double-door version.
Ron Merrick
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Jim Pattison
Thanks Ron, I’ll take a look at eBay Jim
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mopacfirst
If you can find them, Branchline did several NYC cars in the Blueprint
line with the Despatch-built distinctive ends and roof panels. Not sure
how many paint schemes they were offered in, but there were both a single-door
and double-door version.
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Chad Boas has released a mini kit for the B&O M-59, a 50 ft DD boxcar wit proprietary ends, flat panel roof, superior doors and Duryea underframe components. He will have those at Collinsville. Also a second version with IDN ends, roof and u/f components.
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Fenton
On Jul 22, 2022, at 4:43 PM, Jim Pattison <jim@...> wrote:
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Scott H. Haycock
Fenton,
Do you know what the donor model for these mini kits are?
Scott Haycock
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Scott Branchline / Atlas 40 ft boxcar.
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I’ll also not me these are B&O cars and the OP asked about PRR and NYC. Brian J. Carlson
On Jul 22, 2022, at 5:34 PM, Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:
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