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Munshaw Canada slide Canadian Pacific CPR dock yard scene

Bruce Smith
 

Glen,

That's a little too absolutist. In fact, the practice of treating with lime was not as widespread in the US as it was in Canada, where it was required, as has been noted earlier in this thread, and most US stock cars did not show this off white band. On the Canadian stock cars in question the off-white was painted on the car. While it may, or may not, have been designed to "hide" the effects of lime treatment, it certainly wasn't caused by it. I will also remind you that typically, the inside of the car was the concern, not the outside, and so profligate use of lime so that it coated the exterior bottom half of the car would have been grossly wasteful. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour
Glen


On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

Glen Presley <presleyglen@...>
 

The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour
Glen


On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

Tim O'Connor
 


thanks! :-D

On 8/2/2022 11:56 AM, Bob Thompson via groups.io wrote:

Mortifee Munshaw was a photo finishing company in Vancouver, BC. The slide frames carried their name.

Bob Thompson
North Saanich, BC


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Bob Thompson
 

Mortifee Munshaw was a photo finishing company in Vancouver, BC. The slide frames carried their name.

Bob Thompson
North Saanich, BC

Tim O'Connor
 


where exactly is "Munshaw" ??


On 8/1/2022 4:43 PM, hockenheim68 via groups.io wrote:

If that is the Coral Sea then it was March '60 for those dating the scene/ state of equipment. It may have said that in the description but the slide is no longer available. My dad remembers going aboard.

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

hockenheim68
 

If that is the Coral Sea then it was March '60 for those dating the scene/ state of equipment. It may have said that in the description but the slide is no longer available. My dad remembers going aboard.

Robert kirkham
 

ha!.  From what I have heard, some were there to see the carrier and some to see the sailors.

I worked in that yard during my schooling - no one seemed much interested in what was going on down at track level.
  
Rob 

On Aug 1, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Wow I had no idea there were so many Canadian rail fans in one place!

On 7/31/2022 12:48 PM, Steven D Johnson wrote:
Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars: 
 


-- 
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Tim O'Connor
 


Wow I had no idea there were so many Canadian rail fans in one place!

On 7/31/2022 12:48 PM, Steven D Johnson wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

John Riddell
 

It was standard practice for CN and CP stock cars to have the bottom of their sides painted an off-white to somewhat mask the white lime sprayed regularly to disinfect the cars. The white paint made the cars look less messy with lime spray.

John Riddell

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 02:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr wrote:
Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?
Not unless the prototype painted them white as the Canadian roads did. The law in Canada was stock cars were to be disinfected with lime, and the white paint hid the lime stains, or so I've been told.

Dennis Storzek

Patrick Wade
 

I am guessing that the gray better hides the cleanout of the manure and such. Red would become discolored quicker. As I remember, NYC had a similar color scheme.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 12:03 PM Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:
Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

Alex Schneider
 

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

Steven D Johnson
 

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

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