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1 - 20 of 25
Pulpwood, Wood Chips: Uses other than Paper?
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Scott H. Haycock
Folks,
The recent photos of pulpwood unloading has spurred a question. In the 1950s, were there any other uses for pulpwood and wood chips aside from paper manufacturing? I have some freight car projects for these type of cars, but no longer model a main line with through trains. I don't have room for a paper mill, so I'm looking for another, smaller industry that may have used these cars s a destination. Thanks, Scott Haycock |
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erick johnson
I remember clearly when our snow tires had bits of wood chips embedded in the rubber (I am pretty old). Seems the rubber wore faster than the wood chips, and little wood chips would be sticking out of the surface of the tire. I would love to find one of those old tires for "show and tell". How about a tire retreading/recapping place? A little brick building "Clem's Capping" On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 12:48 PM Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote: Folks, |
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Scott park one at your depot or team track that’s where many of them were loaded then it can go to an off site paper mill
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Fenton On Aug 3, 2022, at 4:03 PM, erick johnson <jejhnsn@...> wrote:
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erick johnson
We called them "sawdust tires"
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Scott H. Haycock
I did a little research online and found out that the recapping rubber was impregnated with the sawdust so such railroad cars would go to a rubber factory, not a recapping shop.
Attached is a short description of how these tires worked- Suction!
Scott Haycock
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Scott H. Haycock
That would work for pulpwood racks, but what about woodchip hoppers? I've got a photo of a beautiful(?) three bay hopper with wood extensions I'm dying to build, but these cars were loaded at sawmills- another industry too big for my railroad.
Scott Haycock
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Jeff Helm
Scott,
What about only modeling the woodchip loader on your layout? These often were away from the main lumber mill buildings with a pneumatic conveying pipe to the loader. The mill could be “off stage” with just the pipe coming through the trees, as I have seen in The NW, at least. It is possible that a large furniture maker might also have a woodchip loader for waste sawdust. -- Cheers Jeff Helm |
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Scott H. Haycock
Hi Jeff,
I've thought about a chip loader, but it seems to me that a sawmill would need more rail service than just a chip loader. For instance lumber loading.
I would also think that a furniture factory large enough to generate carloads of waste would also need more service.
But that may be the way to go...
A spur with a loading dock for a couple of double door furniture box cars with a loader at the end! I don't have room for the factory itself.
Incidentally, if it matters, I model central North Carolina in 1959.
I appreciate the input!
Scott Haycock
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 05:53 PM, Scott H. Haycock wrote:
Building flats are great for this. Also, there are several companies that make scenic backgrounds that include industries. You might even be able to combine the two. A furniture factory is perfect for your location and era. You could even simulate a paper mill by modeling just a small yard to serve the mill. You can even put this at the front of the layout (assuming space) and give the impression that the mill is 'in the aisle". If that doesn't work, then scenic backgrounds and/or flats could help create the illusion of the mill -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida |
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Drew Bunn
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:53 PM Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:One of the industries on my future layout is Knight Flooring. Manufacturer of hardwood flooring for over 100 years, they had two seperate spurs that could be modelled with building flats using DPM or Walthers kits. Pulpwood loads could be delivered to a team track for use by the local smokehouse for curing any number of foods.. __________________________________ Drew Bunn drew.r.bunn@... Cell - (905) 483-0758 |
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Scott H. Haycock
In my case, this industry has to be in the isle of a near-eye level layout, so all I could include is a dock and a loader. But what a great place to display model freight cars for close-up viewing!
Scott Haycock
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Scott H. Haycock
And they're in North Carolina! I'll research them. Thanks!
Scott Haycock
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Richard Wilkens
Rayon fabric is made from wood pulp. That's why in Washington state we had the logging company Rayonier. They also used the tree for making lumber and other purposes.
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Scott H. Haycock
My mistake, Drew. I googled Knight Hardwood Flooring' before I saw your Attachment. They have several locations in HC.
Scott Haycock
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Scott,
Most pulp mills had a small storage area for cars - maybe 15 to 20 - so you could model that yard and put the entire mill "on the backdrop" ... perhaps even do some selective compression of the size of the yard (number of tracks wide and/or length of the tracks). I've seen brass pulpwood cars selling on eBay for very little money - a bit on the slim side in terms of details but nonetheless serviceable - especially after adding a few small details and weathering them. Pulpwood hauls were short - usually less than a hundred miles and often less than 50 ... so it fits in with your "no longer model a main line" ... - Jim in the PNW |
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Drew Bunn
I think it'll still work for your needs, Scott.
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__________________________________ Drew Bunn drew.r.bunn@... Cell - (905) 483-0758 On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 6:46 PM Scott H. Haycock <shhaycock@...> wrote:
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In Wyoming I observed a loading track for woodchips at a sawmill. There was an overhead bin, and the car was tied off between two winches on the ground, and they moved it slowly back and forth under the bin. The bin was fed by an overhead pipe on lightweight 'trestle' legs that went back to the sawmill, which was hundreds of feet away ! Saratoga comes to mind as the name of the place, in southern Wyoming west of Laramie. It required no supervision once it was set up -- It probably took a few hours to load each car, and they'd come out and reset it with another empty. Diamond Scale, I believe, made a kit for such an overhead bin. :-)
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Also, the ground all over the place was covered ankle deep in wood chips. On 8/3/2022 7:42 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote: Scott --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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Until the late 1950's "wood chips" were called "hog fuel" and would be burned as fuel in furnaces although many sawmills simply burned them outright ! ( Those giant cone shaped burners. ) The Southern Pacific had a sizable fleet of "hog fuel" cars rebuilt from de-roofed box cars. Hog fuel wasn't necessarily chips, either -- it could be chunks of discarded wood and shredded bark. Tim O'Connor On 8/3/2022 3:48 PM, Scott H. Haycock wrote: Folks, --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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And in Scott's 1959 rayon and viscose fiber plants were still in production - Celanese at Narrows, VA and North American Rayon at Elizabethton TN were still active. I think Dupont in Waynesboro VA was also a rayon plant. Rayon and viscose fiber production needs two things in quantity - water and cellulose.
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