PAINTING WHEEL SETS
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Clarence Zink
I have a set of 4 soil sieves I got years ago from a "science house", and use the finest sifting as 'dust' for a variety of applications. I've used crushed up rust from a forgings bin at work, and dirt from my yard that was suitably treated in my gas grill to neutralize organic matter. (Don't let it get too hot, or heat too long, it will start to smell like coal.)
Once your wheel faces (with axle ends taped off) and backs are painted and dry, give each wheel face/back a little shot of dull coat or cheap hair spray, and sprinkle on a little "dust". It doesn't take much spray, just enough to barely moisten the surface. Too much will make it all muddy looking. Then, when that is dry, brush off the loose material, clean up the axle points and wheel rims, treads and flanges, and install. Best, CRZ |
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gary laakso
I use the crud at the bottom of my paint brush thinner bottle used to clean the brush.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 7:23 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PAINTING WHEEL SETS
How big is wood flour in HO scale, probably ½ in. or more in diameter. You may be able to see a bumpy surface at 1:1, are those bumps visible at 1:87? I’m after a flat grainy black surface, and powder does the job for me.
As a microbiologist, I’d stay away from organic products.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek via groups.io
The problem with weathering powers is they're finer than frog fur. To build up the effect you want you need something with a larger particle size, like "wood flour" which is very fine sawdust. Maybe real flour would work, especially since it is available in different grinds.Or possibly corn starch. Sprinkle it onto wet paint, and when dry, seal it in with another wash of paint. |
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Nelson Moyer
How big is wood flour in HO scale, probably ½ in. or more in diameter. You may be able to see a bumpy surface at 1:1, are those bumps visible at 1:87? I’m after a flat grainy black surface, and powder does the job for me.
As a microbiologist, I’d stay away from organic products.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 9:09 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PAINTING WHEEL SETS
The problem with weathering powers is they're finer than frog fur. To build up the effect you want you need something with a larger particle size, like "wood flour" which is very fine sawdust. Maybe real flour would work, especially since
it is available in different grinds.Or possibly corn starch. Sprinkle it onto wet paint, and when dry, seal it in with another wash of paint. |
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Dennis Storzek
The problem with weathering powers is they're finer than frog fur. To build up the effect you want you need something with a larger particle size, like "wood flour" which is very fine sawdust. Maybe real flour would work, especially since it is available in different grinds.Or possibly corn starch. Sprinkle it onto wet paint, and when dry, seal it in with another wash of paint.
Dennis Storzek |
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Nelson Moyer
Back in the day when we scraped chalk sticks to make powder (I rubbed the stick on the inside of a mini-tea strainer placed over a small wide mount bottle), I painted wheel sets with a Floquil rusty mix made with 2 parts Rust and 1 part Roof Brown. After the paint dried, I scrubbed he wheel faces with black chalk powder with a stiff, short bristle brush. Much of the chalk comes off, as adherence of powered chalk without a binder is poor, but enough remained to blacken the wheel faces. In a later Model Railroader article, Pelle recommended Model Master Skin Tone Dark Tint for the wheel faces and Model Master Dark Tan for the wheel backs and axles.
The attached photo shows (left to right) Floquil painted wheel faces using the mix above, same with black chalk, and Model Master. I didn’t see the white flecks on the chalked wheel until I cropped the photo, but it’s dust or workbench debris that shouldn’t be there. I’ll probably use PanPastel on the wheel faces painted with MM when I weather cars, but the dark MM paint looks almost black when the wheel sets are on the layout.
The best grunge modeling I’ve seen on wheel sets was done with powder on wet paint, but that’s messy. Maybe an easier way to model grunge is to spray a wet coat of clear flat on the wheel face and sprinkle on Bragdon, AIM, or other weathering powders, let it day, and shake off powder that doesn’t stick. If anyone tired that please report back, and tell us if it’s worth the effort. I’m satisfied with the MM treatment until something better but easy comes along.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 6:12 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] PAINTING WHEEL SETS
Several excellent weathering articles have suggested similar methods for achieving the "crusty" appearance that form on the face of the wheel. This involves painting the face a weathered black and following up with powders. I have tried several methods without achieving the desired results. One is painting the face and then sprinkling on the powder while the paint is wet. The I ther involves letting the paint dry before applying the powder.
Any suggestions?
Thanks:
Bill Pardie
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WILLIAM PARDIE
Several excellent weathering articles have suggested similar methods for achieving the "crusty" appearance that form on the face of the wheel. This involves painting the face a weathered black and following up with powders. I have tried several methods without achieving the desired results. One is painting the face and then sprinkling on the powder while the paint is wet. The I ther involves letting the paint dry before applying the powder. Any suggestions? Thanks: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone |
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